HomeMy WebLinkAbout6.a. Minutes of the October 10, 2012 Work Session Proceedings ROSEMOUNT CITY COUNCIL
WORK SESSION PROCEEDINGS
OCTOBER 10, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof a regular work session of the Rosemount City Council was
held on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 at 6:30 p.m. in the Conference Room at City Hall, 2875 145th
Street West, Rosemount.
Mayor Droste called the meeting to order with Council Members DeBettignies, Shoe-Corrigan,
Weisensel and Kearney attending. Staff present included Director of Parks and Recreation Schultz,
City Administrator Johnson, City Clerk Domeier, Community Development Director Lindquist,
Senior Planner Zweber,Director of Public Works/City Engineer Brotzler and Finance Director
May.
DISCUSSION
2.A. Outdoor Athletic Field Analysis
Heidi Kraemer and Craig Peroutka were in attendance to represent RAAA. Director of Parks and
Recreation Schultz provided a summary of the staff report. He requested feedback on moving
forward to bridge the gaps in the amount of fields needed within the community. Throughout the
presentation questions were asked about the sizes of teams, current and projected field uses, and
potential growth. Discussion was also held about options for the Flint Hills parcel including the
number of fields, artificial turf and the pavement of roads at the facility. Mr. Schultz stated that St.
Louis Park conducted a study related to the installation,use and maintenance of installing artificial
turf. He will provide the City Council with more data at a later date.
Mayor Droste requested that RAAA provide their top three wishes for fields. Ms. Kraemer replied
that the group requests flat green space for multi-purpose uses,baseball fields in addition to the two
fields coming online and more amenities such as dugouts and batting cages. Discussion was held
about RAAA reaching out to its members to create partnerships and receive potential sponsorships.
The City Council also suggested meeting with the school board to plan for future programming and
facilities.
Council Member Kearney questioned the options for bonding. City Administrator Johnson
explained what projects require a referendum. Mayor Droste suggested that RAAA attend a meeting
again with the City Council in February or March. Council Members expressed that RAAA would
need to sell their story and show their needs to the residents. Council Member Shoe-Corrigan
suggested that RAAA go to the other schools in the district to see their fields and programs. She
stated it was important for Rosemount to have the same facilities and programming to keep students
in Rosemount. She also suggested that the numbers, costs,planning and programming for indoor
gym space,basketball,volleyball, senior exercise equipment and a splash pad be discussed early next
year. The group also talked about doing a resident survey specific to the issues to learn what the
resident's concerns are regarding the planning of additional amenities.
2.B. Request by Dakota Aggregates
Nancy Ziegler,Dave Huhm,Jim Akin, Carla Carlson, Shawn Dahl,Tim Becken, and Pat Bergen
were in attendance for the item. Senior Planner Zweber summarized and outlined the information
provided with the staff report and attachments. Mr. Zweber highlighted the proposal, comments
received through the public hearings, correspondence and Dakota Aggregates email from October 9
addressing concerns of the permit conditions.
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Discussion was held about the mining buffer. Mr. Zweber explained that if the phasing changes the
berms can be changed. The current ordinance requires 10 feet. During the annual permit review
the requirement could be considered because the Council could be more flexible on the annual
permit. Further discussion was held about the location of the ancillary uses from the Enclave
neighborhood. Mr. Zweber stated that the uses would be about 4,600 feet away from the residents.
Discussion was held about the ground water issues that were raised during the public hearings. Mr.
Zweber explained the proposed locations of the wells and the water flow to the wells. He explained
more about the location of the bedrock. He also shared concerns raised by Commissioner Demuth.
Mr. Zweber explained that the State has reviewed the records and only commercial pesticides were
used. The University did not experiment in pesticides. Remediation has occurred and the
environmental plans include what has and what will be done. Community Development Director
Lindquist explained the PCA approval process. The bedrock is not a concern of the State or
County.
Discussion was held about the water treatment plant. Mr. Zweber explained the differences
between surface water and groundwater. He also explained the testing process for the wells.
Further discussion was held about the cost of a water treatment facility. Director of Public
Works/City Engineer Brotzler explained the development scenarios and the location of potential
wells.
Discussion was held about the ancillary use facilities. Mr. Zweber highlighted the three issues
provided in an email from Dakota Aggregates. Debate was held about the hours of operation in
relation to the ordinance criteria. Mayor Droste supported two shifts. Tim Becken explained the
reasoning behind the request for two shifts. Ms. Lindquist explained that the ordinance hours were
adopted because of complaints about the noise, dust and travel. Further discussion was held about
the installation of curbs. Ames representatives state they wanted to sheet drain and requested a
period of time to install the pavement.
2.C. WSB Contract
Bret Weiss, President of WSB &Associates was in attendance to represent WSB. City
Administrator Johnson provided a brief history of the City's relationship with WSB and the plans
for moving forward. He stated that WSB's costs were in-line and talked about the benefits of
retaining Andy Brotzler as the Public Works Director/City Engineer.
Mr.Weiss provided information to cover issues raised during previous meetings with Mr.Johnson
and Mayor Droste. He outlined his memo sharing the value that WSB has offered to the City
including the lowest overhead fee and fee schedule in the industry. He also provided handouts that
explained the different expertise WSB employees offer and the new service areas that WSB now
includes.
Mayor Droste expressed concern about the engineering costs being higher than what other cities are
being charged. Mr. Weiss provided supplemental information on past projects and the difference in
charges between city projects and developer projects. Mayor Droste was also concerned about
consultants looking at the projects and not in-house staff. He was concerned that WSB may be gold
plating. Mr. Weiss stated that the public and staff are both educated and would find out pretty
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quickly if WSB was gold plating. He stated that WSB performs projects as cost effectively as
possible. Mayor Droste stated that there should be a checks and balance system. Council Member
Shoe-Corrigan pointed out that Mr.Johnson oversees the contract. Mr.Johnson stated that other
staff oversees the contract as well. He offered to provide more information in staff reports about
the projects and associated costs. Council Member Shoe-Corrigan added that Mr. Weiss has already
stated that their fees are in-line. Mayor Droste again stated that he wanted a checks and balance
system in place. Council Member DeBettignies stated that he views Mr. Brotzler as a city employee
and valued how he addresses and manages projects. Council Member Weisensel was concerned
about the lack of innovation and the amount of money being accumulated in the utility funds. He
also did not like that Mr. Brotzler wanted to recruit for a new operations superintendent before
thinking of different ideas for staffing. Mr.Johnson stated that he was the one who wanted to
recruit for an operations superintendent. He added that the 5%increase on the water rates was for
the future water treatment plant. Mr.Johnson added that Mr. Brotzler does many things for the city
that are not billed back to the city.
Council Member DeBettignies spoke of Mr. Brotzler's integrity and character. Mr. Weiss shared
that WSB staff has a good reputation. He added that their innovation is best in the industry.
Council Member Weisensel asked that the innovation and projects be included on the website.
Mayor Droste shared his concern about the transportation in Rosemount in the last 10 years. Mr.
Weiss stated that transportation is a broad word. He explained different transit projects that WSB
has done in other cities. Council Member Shoe-Corrigan stated that the Council did not know
where they wanted the transportation priorities 10 years ago. Mr.Johnson talked about the Akron
Avenue project. He also talked about the public persona and the written and verbal communication
skills that Mr. Brotzler possesses. Finance Director May provided history on the city having its own
engineering and using consultant companies. Community Development Director Lindquist also
shared her experience in other cities with using an engineering consultant firm.
Council Member Shoe-Corrigan suggested going out to bid to address the Mayor Droste's concern.
Mayor Droste stated the City should have an in-house engineer. Council Member Shoe-Corrigan
stated that option was not cost effective at this point. Mr.Johnson stated that the city is working
with a really good company and the costs are in-line. Mr. Weiss offered to share proposals that WSB
has submitted other cities. He asked that the Council consider the quality of work they are receiving
from WSB. Council Member DeBettignies stated that the contract between WSB and the City was a
win-win situation.
Council Member Weisensel suggested that the Council negotiate with WSB for a five year contact.
Council Members Shoe-Corrigan and DeBettignies concurred. Mr.Weiss will submit a proposed
agreement to Mr.Johnson. Further discussion on the proposed contract will take place at the
November 14 work session.
2.D. Senior Housing
Community Development Director Lindquist stated that staff and the developer having been
working on the conditions of the agreement. City Attorney LeFevere has been developing the
preliminary development agreement for City Council review in November.
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2.E. Neighborhood Amenities
Director of Parks and Recreation Schultz provided a summary of the staff report. The City Council
discussed using stamped concrete;recycled materials;metal benches;benches that match the
location;and incorporating the triskele design into stamped concrete.
UPDATES
2.A. YCMA/DCTC Update
Mayor Droste provided an update on the market feasibility. He added that the group is considering
doing a survey. The next meeting will be held on November 8.
2.B. Updates from City Council/Staff
City Administrator Johnson stated that his annual review paperwork would be sent out to the City
Council.
Discussion was held about senior housing at the Genz Ryan site.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Council and upon a motion by Droste,
second by DeBettignies, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 11:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Amy Domeier, City Clerk