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HomeMy WebLinkAbout7.a. Outdoor Ice Rink Relocations4ROSEMOUNTEXECUTIVE SUMMARY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION Parks and Recreation Commission Regular Meeting: June 23, 2014 ISSUE With the development of the splash pad in Central Park, there is a need to relocate the two outdoor ice rinks that were in the park. Staff identified moving one rink to Jaycee Park and the other to Bloomfield Park. The two rinks would be placed in the areas that had previously been used for a pleasure rink. These two park locations already have electrical for the lights, ample parking spaces and winter ice rink operations. Earlier this summer, electrical work had started at Jaycee Park so the lights could be relocated from Central Park. A resident living near Jaycee Park called staff to ask more about the project. A few residents also attended a City Council meeting and provided comments to the City Council regarding their concerns about the proposed relocation of the rink to Jaycee Park. Due to the concerns raised by residents, staff held two neighborhood meetings on Wednesday, May 21 to discuss the placement of new rinks at Jaycee and Bloomfield Parks. Ten residents attended the Jaycee Park neighborhood meeting. A number of people from this neighborhood had concerns regarding the placement of another permanent outdoor ice rink in the park. There were concerns about the loss of open space in the spring, summer and fall, the addition of more lights and light poles to the park, drainage of the existing rinks, and about the new rink being intrusive to the neighbors. There was one resident there who was in support of the rink being added to Jaycee Park. The neighbors who were not in support of the rink being added to Jaycee Park are asking the City not to put the rink there or to place a temporary rink in the park for the winter months only. Staff will have cost estimates for a permanent rink and a temporary rink at the meeting on Monday. The meeting for the Bloomfield Park neighborhood attracted three residents. The residents from the Bloomfield neighborhood did not have any concerns about the relocation a rink to Bloomfield Park. The meetings notes from both meetings are included in the packet. Staff would like for the Commission to discuss this item and provide a recommendation to the City Council regarding the placement of a rink at Jaycee Park. AGENDA SECTION: AGENDA ITEM: Outdoor Ice Rink Relocations New Business PREPARED BY: Dan Schultz, Parks and Recreation AGENDA NO. Director 7 a. ATTACHMENTS: Meeting Notes and Concept Plans APPROVED BY: RECOMMENDED ACTION: Motion to be discussed at the meeting. ISSUE With the development of the splash pad in Central Park, there is a need to relocate the two outdoor ice rinks that were in the park. Staff identified moving one rink to Jaycee Park and the other to Bloomfield Park. The two rinks would be placed in the areas that had previously been used for a pleasure rink. These two park locations already have electrical for the lights, ample parking spaces and winter ice rink operations. Earlier this summer, electrical work had started at Jaycee Park so the lights could be relocated from Central Park. A resident living near Jaycee Park called staff to ask more about the project. A few residents also attended a City Council meeting and provided comments to the City Council regarding their concerns about the proposed relocation of the rink to Jaycee Park. Due to the concerns raised by residents, staff held two neighborhood meetings on Wednesday, May 21 to discuss the placement of new rinks at Jaycee and Bloomfield Parks. Ten residents attended the Jaycee Park neighborhood meeting. A number of people from this neighborhood had concerns regarding the placement of another permanent outdoor ice rink in the park. There were concerns about the loss of open space in the spring, summer and fall, the addition of more lights and light poles to the park, drainage of the existing rinks, and about the new rink being intrusive to the neighbors. There was one resident there who was in support of the rink being added to Jaycee Park. The neighbors who were not in support of the rink being added to Jaycee Park are asking the City not to put the rink there or to place a temporary rink in the park for the winter months only. Staff will have cost estimates for a permanent rink and a temporary rink at the meeting on Monday. The meeting for the Bloomfield Park neighborhood attracted three residents. The residents from the Bloomfield neighborhood did not have any concerns about the relocation a rink to Bloomfield Park. The meetings notes from both meetings are included in the packet. Staff would like for the Commission to discuss this item and provide a recommendation to the City Council regarding the placement of a rink at Jaycee Park. Meeting notes from the Jaycee Park Neighborhood meeting May 21, 2014 • The pleasure rink at Jaycee gets a lot more use than we estimated. • Except for when there is organized hockey activity in the hockey rink, there is usually not enough casual use to support a good pickup game. The hockey rink is just not that well used and the site does not really need another hockey rink. • RAHA uses the rink on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays but had lots of cancelled practices this past winter due to extreme cold or too much snow. • Our goal was to have good ice from Mid -December through President's day • One comment was that a new rink would be a lot of expense to construct a permanent structure for this short season when the open space could be used for other things year round. • This space is versatile and usable because it is an open area. • This space is also appreciated because it is available to drop in park users, even when the shelter building has been reserved and is in use. • Someone asked if the rink structure could be removed in the spring to maintain this open space. • There was discussion about using one of the rinks at Jaycee as an off leash dog park. Other cities are considering this summer use for some of their rinks. • One guest spoke in favor of building the new rink and suggested that we try to develop street hockey or other warm season uses for the rinks so that it got more year round use. • There was a question about using it as a skate park during the summer. Staff said this was a possibility but explained that in-line skating use of paved rinks was a short lived fad and is no longer popular. • There was a suggestion for using a paved rink for pickle ball. This may be a good summer use for a rink but neither of the rinks at Jaycee Park would be paved. • Guests were reminded that while the hockey rinks are being removed from Central Park, we still plan to maintain a free skating rink there. • There were several comments about how the suggested placement of the new rink felt "intrusive" and there was a comment about the possibility of pucks flying into adjacent yards or into the proposed free rink north of the new rink. It was pointed out that it was very unlikely that any pucks could be hit far enough to reach private property. • There were comments about the kind and placement of lights. There was a suggestion that we look for ways to reduce the number of light poles or look at their placement to ensure the minimum of "Spill light". • There was a comment that the lights would not be all that intrusive if they went off at 9:00 each night, especially since the existing rink is already lighted. • We discussed possible landscaping options but there was concern about creating too much privacy that might conceal mischief makers. There was interest in well placed and maintained shrubs. • Some residents described already existing problems with drainage and say they get a lot of runoff water from the park flowing into their yards. • Mayor Droste asked it this might not be a good location for a rain garden. • Several guests thanked staff and said they appreciated the opportunity to meet do discuss the project and looked forward to the opportunity to compromise on the placement of the new rink. • Residents said that a seasonal rink would be a good compromise. They liked the idea of "A rink that disappears in the summer" Someone asked how the decision about what to do with the rink will be made. Staff explained the process, saying the Parks Commission will discuss this and make a recommendation to the City Council who will decide the ultimate fate of the proposed rink. City council members DeBettignies and Weisensel said we would use the contact information from the meeting sign in sheet to contact participants. Meeting Notes from the Bloomfield Park Neighborhood meeting May 21, 2014. There were only three people from the Bloomfield neighborhood at the meeting and there was really no opposition to the new rink. The only concern was the close proximity of the rinks to each other and asked if we could extend the rink end fencing to minimize the chance of pucks flying from one rink to the other. • Similarly, one of the guests commented about the concern of pucks hitting people using the trail along the parking lot. But when we explained the distance from the south end of the rink to that trail, her concerns were put to rest. Det, Apr 28, 2014 Dr ,g Flt: kk02236-01 O\mftlpl„tlV key Mk p,,l, 2236 10 ha ,y p ,o l dw , Pag, Sefep —, Sh„1 Lay, L4 Jaycee Palk XREFS Xret 02236-010 Hockey LA Group T Bl,,k. Xref base rata,, 2010, Xref Jaycee Hack,y ,a e c f ,v a vv vvh vov� o NO ^. \ •'.a,.. ,� �,.. 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