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PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
JUNE 25, 2013
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Call to Order:
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission was held
on Tuesday, June 25, 2013. Chairperson Powell called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. with
Commissioners Husain, Miller, Kurle and Weber present. Also in attendance were Senior Planner
Zweber, Planner Lindahl, Economic Development Intern Hadler, Assistant City Engineer Olson
and Recording Secretary Kladar.
The Pledge of Allegiance was read.
Additions to Agenda:None.
Audience Input: None.
Consent Agenda:
a. Approval of the May 28, 2013, Regular Meeting Minutes
MOTION by Weber to approve the Consent Agenda.
Second by Kurle.
Ayes: 4. Nays: 0. Abstain: Miller. Motion approved.
Public Hearing
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5.a. Request by Lennar Corporation for a Preliminary Plat and PUD Final Site and Building Plan
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Economic Development Intern Hadler
for Prestwick Place 9 Addition (13-25-PP, 13-26-FDP).
stated that the applicant, Lennar Corporation (Lennar) requests approval of a Preliminary Plat and
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Planned Unit Development (PUD) Final Site & Building Plan for the Prestwick Place 9 Addition
subdivision to allow 68 lots on approximately 31 acres. Ms. Hadler further explained the different
phases of the development and conditions involved.
Commissioner Weber inquired about the small section of lots within Phase 1 along Albany Avenue.
Ms. Hadler stated Albany is currently under construction. Assistant City Engineer Olson added
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that Albany Avenue is included with Prestwick 7 and will be under construction this fall and the
roadways and infrastructure will be in place with that addition. Lots 9 and 10 will also be developed
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with 7 addition. No further questions.
The public hearing was opened at 6:37 p.m.
Shalome Westberg, 14184 Atwood Court, stated she is concerned about increased traffic as there
are lots of kids on the two cul-de-sacs. Currently there is no through traffic and she inquired if
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142 Street West needs to be extended into the new development as proposed. If the proposed
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street must be there they would request a 4-way stop between 2 cul-de-sacs and 142 Street.
Mr. Zweber responded that he received calls from two residents about this proposed street and that
one of the callers had specifically stated that he was in favor as it would provide a connection to the
park itself. Connemara Trail is the major road in the area. None of the other roads will lead to a
full intersection with County Road 42 other than Connemara and turning south onto Akron
Avenue to County Road 42. This will connect Bloomfield and everything south of Connemara.
This connection does not provide a shortcut to anywhere else or provide an additional
thoroughfare. Eliminating the connection would possibly delay emergency service. Further, in
2007 when Prestwick was approved this connection was shown as a future street.
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Assistant City Engineer Olson stated they will determine if a study is warranted regarding 4-way
stop. He noted that the connection does provide continuity between neighbors and the park but is
not a regional connection.
Zach Little, 14262 Atwood Circle, is concerned about whether the easement on his property will be
accessed during the development stage as he has trees planted there. Assistant City Engineer Olson
responded that the proposed grading plan will grade up to the property line and not beyond. Eric
Zweber added that all drainage will stay on the properties. The backyards are graded with a swale
and catch basins will be installed.
Brian Schulte, 14214 Atwood Circle, had the same concerns of kid safety and traffic. He inquired
as to the criteria for a 4-way stop sign placement. Assistant City Engineer Olson stated that the
City will take a thorough look at this intersection but the determination is made based upon traffic
and pedestrian volume and sight distance.
Chairperson Powell inquired whether stop signs actually slow down traffic. Assistant City Engineer
Olson responded that they do not and are not a good method for traffic calming. If a driver is
forced to stop they will speed beyond the stop sign or roll through it. He noted that stop signs can
give pedestrians a false sense of security.
Fran Hagen with Westwood Professional Services was present on behalf of applicant Lennar.
Commissioner Miller asked applicant about the proposed sidewalks. In the past he’s seen more
sidewalks in other Lennar (such as Glendalough) projects than he is seeing on the proposed
development. He inquired whether the sidewalks are sufficient and is there a potential for
increasing the amount.
Mr. Hagen stated that this was standard for what they’ve done in the past. More sidewalks are
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typically added if it is a heavy traffic road. Applicant refers to Prestwick Place 7 design. Albany
Way has a sidewalk on both sides leading down to the park so they continued that per City
instruction.
Mr. Zweber added that the City reviews plans based on adopted city code and plans. Council has
adopted a pedestrian and bicycle plan which requires sidewalk on one side of street in single family
residential streets. On Albany, there are sidewalks on both sides because it funnels into the park
and has increased traffic. The plan meets city’s requirements but more sidewalks can be added if
the Planning Commission recommends.
Chairperson Powell asked whether the Park Board reviews sidewalk and bike plans. Mr. Zweber
advised that the Parks and Recreation director reviews and comments on subdivisions and
sidewalks. Commissioner Miller wanted to make sure kids aren’t crossing over intersections to get
to the park.
Mr. Zweber replied that the City will add sidewalks if there are more homes or longer distances to
destinations. He added that they planned to make as few intersection crossings as possible.
Sidewalks on both sides won’t alleviate the need to cross at an intersection.
Commissioner Miller asked how city is planning on signage that will show cars that there are
designated crossing areas there. Mr. Zweber replied that a zebra stripe would be reasonable at the
intersection Aldborough Avenue and Ailesbury Avenue. Assistant City Engineer Olson said that
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traffic will stop at the two T-intersections and the City will evaluate whether a dedicated crosswalk
and additional signage is needed.
Commissioner Husain inquired about areas on the proposal designated as future commercial area.
Mr. Zweber replied that they are owned jointly by Lennar, Pemtom Land Company and Arcon
Land Company.
Commissioner Husain asked whether city had considered traffic volume if there are commercial
lots there. Mr. Zweber indicated that the City did within an AUAR in 2005. The commercial road
will have a 3/4 access with 42; Akron Avenue has access in midblock between 42 and Connemara
and residential street makes a T to try to discourage the use of local residential streets being used as
short cuts to get to commercial area. The commercial area was further evaluated with preliminary
plat approval in 2007 and the Comprehensive Plan adopted in 2008. The City worked on a road
network that encourages access to commercial area with limited access through local streets.
Kyle Pak, 14274 Atwood Circle, states that he has a hill behind his house. The new development
proposes three lots on top of the hill and he is concerned about the view from the proposed lots in
that they will be looking down onto his property. Assistant City Engineer Olson responded that
there would be no grading beyond property lines. The hill would remain and the homes will be
higher than his lot.
Mr. Zweber said Lot 6 would be behind Mr. Pak’s house and Lot 7 only partially. Lots 8-10 would
be oriented to the pond to the south rather than to his house. Mr. Pak was also concerned about
the easement on his property and whether additional water from the new lots would flow through
his easement into the pond. Mr. Zweber advised that some of it will as the lots flow to the
southwest and will flow down through the drainage and utility easement to the pond. The water
would roll down from Lot 7 but Lot 6 flows north to a catch basin. The drainage and utility
easement was determined to be part of the slope of the pond. The diagrams shows slope from Lots
8-9; there will be less of property flowing through the easement after development than the current
agricultural field.
Chairperson Powell said most of Mr. Pak’s lot is likely drainage and utility easement. Mr. Pak said
the easement cuts across vertically down to catch rain water and the east side of the hill is
landscaped too. Chairperson Powell said the purpose of the easement is so the anticipated runoff
would go through there and the quantity wouldn’t change much with development as the grading is
oriented southwest not west toward property.
MOTION by Miller to close the public hearing.
Second by Husain.
Ayes: 5. Nays: None. Motion approved. Public hearing was closed at 7:10 p.m.
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Commissioner Kurle asked the applicant about 142 Street and whether most of construction
would go through Connemara Trail and down Ailesbury. Assistant City Engineer Olson stated that
contractors will use Connemara and Mr. Zweber added that they wouldn’t allow construction traffic
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to use 142 through Bloomfield.
Commissioner Miller commented on the deviations from City Ordinance regarding lot size, etc.
that come up recently each time a plat is approved. Commissioner Miller inquired whether there
has there been discussion at the City level to revise codes so they don’t have the same variations
each time a plat is approved. Mr. Zweber said that during a Comprehensive Plan review for UMore
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or possibly earlier the City would consider a zoning ordinance for a smaller lot for single family
homes. Chairperson Powell asked whether the smaller lot size is a reflection of the market. Mr.
Zweber said yes but also the regional rules encourage the City to provide small lots and more
density. Specifically, the Met Council has a benchmark of 3 units per acre which they can get close
to with a 65’ lot.
MOTION by Powell to recommend the City Council approve the Preliminary Plat for
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Prestwick Place 9 Addition, subject to conditions:
a.A deviation from City Code Section 11-4-5 F.1. to reduce the interior lot minimum
area of 10,000 to 8,300 square feet. Blocks 1 & 3 will retain the R1 standards of
10,000 square feet.
b.A deviation from City Code Section 11-4-5 F.2. to reduce the minimum lot width to
sixty-five (65) feet for interior lots and eighty (80) feet for corner lots on Blocks 2 &
4. Per the conditions of City Council Resolution No. 2007.92 adopted October 2,
2007, Blocks 1 & 3 (formerly known as Blocks 1 & 2) will retain standard 80 feet
minimum lot width for interior lots, and 95 feet for corner lots.
c.The home design front elevation shall include a minimum of three and a half (3.5)
feet of brick or stone wainscoting, excluding doors, windows or the wall behind the
front porch; a front porch with railing that extends at least 30% of the width of the
front elevation, including the garage; a side entry garage; or no more than 70% lap
siding, excluding doors and windows.
d.A deviation from City Code Section 11-4-5 F.4. to reduce the front yard setback to
twenty five (25) feet.
e.A deviation from City Code Section 11-4-5 F.5. to reduce the side yard setback to
seven and one half (7.5) feet on Blocks 2 & 4. Blocks 1 & 3 will retain the standard
10 feet side yard setback per the conditions of City Council Resolution No. 2007.92
adopted October 2, 2007.
f.A deviation from City Code Section 11-4-5 F.9. to increase the maximum lot
coverage to thirty five percent (35%) for the of lots Blocks 2 & 4.
g.Sidewalks should be added along Alma Circle on Lots 28 – 31, Block 4.
h.One additional overstory tree should be added to each of Lot 6, Block 3 and the
corner lot Lot 5, Block 4.
i.The proposed subdivision sign on Outlot B may not be placed on public property.
j.Trees must be installed between home and adjacent right-of-way.
k.Trees installed on individual lots shall be planted in a location that does not interfere
with curb stops or individual sewer or water connections.
l.Drainage and utility easements with storm sewer infrastructure may contain fences
but shall be required to include gates to provide truck access; shall prohibit sheds or
other accessory structures; and shall prohibit landscaping that would impede
drainage.
m.Conformance with all requirements of the City Engineer as detailed in the attached
memorandum dated June 18th, 2013.
n.Conformance with all requirements of the Parks and Recreation Director as detailed
in the attached memorandum dated June 18th, 2013.
o.Conformance with all requirements of the Fire Marshal as detailed in the attached
memorandum dated June 10th, 2013.
Second by Miller.
Ayes: 5. Nays: None. Motion approved.
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Old Business None.
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New Business
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Planner
7.a. Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment for Alternative Energy Systems (13-27-TA).
Lindahl stated that Rosemount’s existing solar collector standards were last updated in 1993 and
should be revised to address changing technology, establish consistent standards, and implement
the City’s goals to become a more sustainable community.
Mr. Lindahl explained that systems can be roof or ground mounted. Roofs are typically used in
urban areas. Staff thinks it is important for the solar panels to blend into the existing background.
There are two primary ways in which the City could designate use: accessory or conditional.
Accessory use is considered a secondary use of a piece of property. Conditional use is more
appropriate for rural or industrial. If the city were to consider accessory use, the applicant would
request building permit and it would be an administrative type review. Conditional or principle use
of the site would require a public hearing and come before Planning Commission. There could also
be some interim uses. Mr. Lindahl requested comments from the Planning Commission on the
information provided in the packet.
Commissioner Husain inquired whether geothermal energy was included as an alternative energy.
Mr. Lindahl responded that geothermal use is currently not being considered as the City feels that
solar is the most appropriate place to start. However, the City intends to rename the code as
alternative energy as opposed to solar and that could include geothermal and wind energy.
Geothermal use is different and includes pipes and underground systems and there will be different
standards for geothermal.
Commissioner Miller inquired about height of the solar panels. He suggested that solar panels that
exceed the height of house need a variance and if they are flush to the house to proceed by permit.
Regarding ground mounted, he would like to see some screening standards and heights restrictions.
Further, regarding performance standards there should be some benefit to putting them in. If City
sets the structure for solar energy they open door to others such as wind power generation.
Geothermal systems would just need to meet requirements and he doesn’t think the City would
want to do conditional use permit. Generally speaking the process should be streamlined so City
can provide permits once standards are met.
Mr. Lindahl responded that the City will attempt to balance between an efficient use of the solar
system with meeting performance standards. On the house shown, the panels were placed to get
the most efficient use of the sun. Commissioner Miller thinks if it impacts surrounding properties,
the Planning Commission may need to hear those matters and feels a balance of streamlining and
maintaining the integrity of neighborhoods is important.
Chairperson Powell said they are trying to set boundaries under which most things fit. The City will
need some control if the changes will affect neighboring properties. With respect to geothermal,
Mr. Zweber said there approximately six geothermal installations in town and most of them went in
with no problem. The City will want to provide guidelines for review for those systems.
Commissioner Kurle stated that height restrictions for buildings may be a good place to start for
the guidelines. Commissioner Kurle inquired whether residents could say they can’t build due to
trees so they could just go taller with their system. Mr. Lindahl responded that they would need to
rise to the practical difficulty standard to meet variance requirements. Staff would typically advise
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applicants that zoning standards create development limitations. The City would need to balance
what is practical and reasonable for applicant to gain access to the solar resources with impact on
surrounding properties. Mr. Zweber added that a City can modify a solution to a variance and can
place reasonable restrictions.
Commissioner Weber added that he would like to encourage solar systems in industrial areas.
These buildings have larger rooftops and use more energy than residential homes. Commissioner
Miller commented that setting good standards in place would help homeowners and businesses.
He stressed the importance of supporting both citizens and businesses.
Commissioner Miller also inquired about the process of moving to step 3 of the Green Steps. Mr.
Lindahl stated there are 26 Best Practices items which communities need to do fully to implement
the Green Steps program. Currently the City has done 7 or 8 items. Other items to be done
include: create solar ordinance and streamlined permitting system, develop complete streets
program allowing more alternative transportation methods with biking and walking, there are also
certain energy standards for purchasing office machines and papaer. More detail about the next
steps will be provided in the future.
Mr. Lindahl requested the Commission’s input regarding whether solar panels should be permitted
or as an interim use where solar panels would be the primary use of that property. The new
Minnesota law allows for community solar where a property owner could create a large solar farm.
They could lease or sell a panel of energy back to customers within the county. This is expected to
be the new trend.
Commissioner Husain inquired whether the City could put restrictions on new commercial
buildings and the type of energy they use. Mr. Lindahl replied that this would exceed the City’s
planning authority. The new state law requires the major utilities to produce 1.5% of their electric
energy from a solar resource by the year 2020. The state is creating a broader incentive. Mr.
Zweber added that there can be some City regulation on projects where City funds are involved.
Commissioner Miller said interim use is his preference as it allows a review of permits. This will
give an opportunity to make corrections and continue to improve performance standards.
Commissioner Kurle said accessory use would be preferred for residential. He recommended
conditional use for commercial properties based on certain requirements. Interim use could be
used within a certain zoning area to maintain some control.
The next step in this process would be for staff to draft an ordinance and bring it back to the
Planning Commission for a public hearing.
Planner Mr.
7.b. Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment for Accessory Dwelling Units (13-28-TA).
Lindahl stated that the purpose of this item is to begin a discussion with the Planning Commission
about Accessory Dwelling Units (ADU’s) within single family residential zoning district. Currently,
single family districts prohibit more than one dwelling unit per property. Accessory Dwelling Units
are defined as a “residential living unit that provides complete independent living facilities for one
or more persons separate from a main unit on the same parcel.” Mr. Lindahl stated that staff
requests the Planning Commission provide feedback regarding the idea of introducing ADU’s into
single family zoning districts.
There are two different potential processes: accessory or conditional use and the City needs to
develop standards for either process. Staff recommends that the base zoning standards apply to
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create consistency. The City could limit these units to certain zoning districts. Staff feels it is
appropriate to maintain character of single family neighborhood. Zoning should regulate size to
insure ADU’s remain secondary to the primary use (i.e., 30% of size). Occupancy can also be
restricted by number of people or ownership. Other communities like Maple Grove or Woodbury
have taken an incremental approach that allows separate living areas within an existing home such
as the basement.
Commissioner Kurle stated this is becoming very common in residential additions. He
recommends accessory use with guidelines such as listed by staff. Commissioner Weber agrees and
stated the only time he would want conditional use is for somebody who is not related.
Mr. Zweber said the zoning ordinance wouldn’t allow revocation of the conditional use. The code
currently addresses rental licensing. The City will look to see if a rental license can accommodate
this type of dwelling. These licenses are managed administratively and are valid for 2 years. If the
owner doesn’t meet the standards the licenses can be pulled. Conversely, zoning has a permanence
that runs with the land.
Commissioner Weber inquired whether they would still need to meet the minimum coverage of the
lot. Mr. Zweber said they would without a variance. Commissioner Miller stated he would like to
see accessory use for existing homes thereby setting up performance standards based on lot size
and other criteria. Secondly, he thinks the City would need a new zoning code for the types of
dwellings such as the Lennar drawing as they are quite different (i.e., single family plus zone). The
Planning Commission talked previously about shrinking lot sizes in the recent developments.
These new home designs are covering too much of these lots and lots will need to be bigger.
Mr. Zweber stated there are plenty of non-conforming lots in the City such as the one acre lots
along north South Robert Trail that are zoned Rural Residential. If the lot doesn’t conform to the
lot standards, then the Planning Commission can consider prohibiting the able to get an ADU. If a
lot is non-conforming, then that lot would have to be evaluated individually and a variance would
allow the City to do that. .
Commissioner Miller stated bigger lots may be necessary. Mr. Lindahl stated if they are basing
standards on existing zoning standards, if you came in for ADU you would still look at the same
standards regardless of what lot size you are on. The lot size may inherently limit the ability to have
an ADU. The City would potentially add a standard minimum lot size for an ADU.
Commissioner Miller doesn’t want a lot of conditional use permits and reviews. He thinks existing
and future are different scenarios. Mr. Lindahl stated it’s important to review the criteria and tie to
rental licensing process.
Chairperson Powell wants to see these units as accessory uses if they fit underlying zoning and
would like to allow where possible. He thinks that the owner needs to be in one of the two units.
Commissioner Husain inquired as to the difference between accessory and conditional use permit.
Mr. Lindahl replied that accessory uses are things that go along with primary use (i.e., garage, pool
in single family zoning districts). Conditional use are similar to principal use but only appropriate
under certain conditions (i.e., Rosemount allows churches as a conditional use in residential areas.)
Commissioner Husain concerned about misuse and believes that a conditional use permit is more
attractive.
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Commissioner Miller leaves at 8:35 p.m.
Commissioner Kurle doesn’t want there to be hindrances and recommends current code dictate
guidelines. Mr. Zweber said there is a hybrid such as potential guidelines could require that
detached would be conditional use and attached could be accessory use.
Staff will study the issue further and create draft accessory dwelling unit standards for the Planning
Commission to consider.
Senior Planner Zweber stated
7.c. South Urban Gateway Analysis for Redevelopment (SUGAR).
that the South Gateway District is an hourglass shaped area that is designated for commercial uses
in the City’s Comprehensive Plan and he further explained where the area is in Rosemount. Mr.
Zweber further explained that the City has received a $15,000 grant from the Dakota County
Community Development Agency (CDA) to conduct the South Urban Gateway Analysis for
Redevelopment planning study and the City Council is recommending an approximate twelve (12)
member committee including two Planning Commissioners to assist with the study. Mr. Zweber
requested the Commission to appoint two committee members. Commissioners Kurle and Weber
volunteered to be on the South Gateway Redevelopment.
Reports
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Senior Planner Zweber stated the open house for
8.a. Summary of UMore AUAR Open House.
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public comment on the UMore AUAR was held last night, Monday, June 24, from 6:30-8:30p.m.
with a presentation at 7:00p.m. in the banquet room of the Community Center. The Mayor and
several council members were present and 15-20 residents. Mr. Zweber stated that were questions
were raised how County Road 42 would be improved and how the environmental review would
happen. It was explained that a construction contingency plan would need to be developed and
approved by the PCA before any development happens.
Adjournment There being no further business to come before this Commission, Chairperson
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Powell adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Karin Kladar, Recording Secretary