HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 06-24-13PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
June 24, 2013
Special Meeting
Members Present: Maureen Bartz, Jason Eisold, Mike Eliason, Barb Farrell
Members Absent: JoAnne Cope
Staff Present: Dan Schultz, Director of Parks and Recreation and Sonja Honl, Recording Secretary
Student Volunteers: CeCe -Amari Gaines
Others Present: None
1. CALL TO ORDER: Eliason called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
3. APPROVAL OF THE MAY 29, 2013 MEETING MINUTES: MOTION by Farrell to approve
the minutes of the May 29, 2013 meeting. SECOND by Eisold. Ayes: 4 Nays: 0 Motion passed.
4. AUDIENCE INPUT: None
5. DISCUSSION (Response to Audience Input): None
6. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Parks and Recreation Commission — Goals and CIP Budget — This month's packet included
spreadsheets of CIP items and their cost estimates for 2013 through 2021, as well'as a spreadsheet
for future years' items. Schultz reviewed the priority CIP items listed in the executive summary. Per
Schultz, the wild card in the CIP budget is the parks dedication fees that come in. Discussion of the
Athletic Facilities included the following comments: Farrell recommended that the Flint Hills
Athletic Fields and the UMore Ball Fields be accelerated and that both be moved up to 2014. Eisold
suggested trying to consolidate some of the big arena projects that are spread out over a few years.
Schultz will look into this. Eliason asked how the YMCA project is moving along. Schultz told the
Commission that a survey had been conducted and the results were positive and showed residents
would like a Y. Bartz asked if the Commission could see the results of the survey. The Commission
felt it was important that if the City /tax payers are paying for the Y, they should get reduced
membership rates, and be able to buy a walking or swimming pass without having to pay for a
membership fee. Bartz noticed that the Erickson Park playground equipment is not schedule to be
installed until 2017 and asked if that could be moved up. Schultz will check with Public Works and
see if this would be possible to move it up a year. Bartz also asked what was on the pedestrian
improvement plan. Schultz will look at the plan and let the Commission know. The Commission
asked if the outdoor exercise equipment would go through the same process as the playground
equipment, with a couple of the Commissioners being involved in reviewing the options. Per
Schultz we haven't looked into this much yet. Discussion of the Special Interest Facilities included
the following comments: Bartz asked about the meandering river concept the Commission had
discussed in the past, and whether people would be able to float in it. Per Schultz it would be like
the one in Burnsville, for wading, and it could possibly be located at the Y facility. The Commission
didn't think it should be tied to the Y. They had suggested at past meetings that it might be
something we could incorporate with a splash pad, because it would provide an amenity for older
kids, parents and grandparents, making the splash pad a draw for a much wider age - range.
Discussion of Natural Resources included the following comments: Farrell stressed that the
buckthorn at Carroll's Woods needs to be addressed soon or it's going to be extremely difficult to
remove it all. Schultz suggested that we might be able to hire a company such as Applied Ecological
Services to remove it. He will check on the price for something like this. Buckthorn removal would
be an ongoing project. Discussion of Trails included the following: Per Schultz, the Hwy 3
underpass is scheduled to begin the end of June, the County is working on getting access to property
for the regional greenway, and we've identified areas around Rosemount where benches could be
placed along sidewalks/ trails. Schultz will bring some plans for the bench sites to next month's
meeting. Schultz briefly reviewed the Neighborhood Parks that are slated for new developments and
their estimated timelines. Much depends on the park improvement funds and the rate of
development. Schultz will continue to bring the goals and CIP budget item back each month until it
is finalized. He will pass along the Commission's comments to the City Council.
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b. Splash Pad — Schultz passed out cost estimates for the various plans that were included in this
month's packet and reviewed the three options for Central Park and the option for Schwarz Pond
Park. The Central Park location was discussed first. There were questions about the cost of the
relocation of the rinks and lights (the Commission thought $125,000 seemed low), and where the
rinks should be moved to. Jaycee, Bloomfield, Shannon Parks and the Flint Hills Athletic Fields
were all suggested. If the rinks were moved to Bloomfield Park, we'd need to build a shelter and that
cost should be considered, too. The Commission thought that if they were moved to Shannon
Park, we could possibly replace the two smaller storage sheds with a bigger building that could be
include space for storage. We'd also have to consider the effect of the rink lights on the
neighborhood. Option 2 seemed to allow the best plan for Leprechaun Days to continue at Central
Park. Eisold pointed out that flooding the splash pad to use if for skating in winter wasn't a good
idea because of the damage to the concrete that would result from skates going through the ice.
Option 3 had the fewest changes to Central Park and was the least expensive. The Commission
asked about the impact on businesses next to Central Park and issues that could come up, such as
parking. Schultz mentioned that these businesses have already had issues with users of Central Park
asking to use their bathrooms. The Schwarz Pond Park location was discussed next. Eliason asked
if the splash pad could be moved to the left, with a meandering river feature installed around it. Per
Schultz, we could definitely move it to that area. Schultz explained that getting water, sewer and
electricity to the site were the biggest challenges for this location. The Commission pointed out that
we wouldn't need to move rinks, monuments, playgrounds, etc., at this location. Eisold asked that
the information on water systems, water treatment, etc., in the "Notes" section of the plans be
thoroughly researched before we move forward. Farrell also mentioned the need for water
conservation, keeping in mind the cost of water and the recent news items about depletion of
aquifers. Bartz asked about the long term maintenance of the above ground water features, what
features are the most versatile. Per Schultz we'll have some of each type of feature — in- ground and
above ground. The Commission stressed the parking issues at Central Park and the need for
bathrooms to be open when the splash pad is in use. After much discussion, the Commission
agreed that a scaled down splash pad might work best at Central Park. The plans presented seemed
to be trying to put too much into a park that is already very busy. Eisold suggested incorporating a
smaller splash pad into Central Park, with minimal extra parking and keeping one of the rinks, so we
could still use the park for Leprechaun Days. Then we could add a second splash pad, to be located
at Schwarz Pond Park, to the 2016 CIP. MOTION by Eisold that the Parks Commission
recommends Central Park Concept Plan Option 3, with a scaled down version of a splash pad that
has a smaller square footage, that the design plan could also include other outdoor water
features /amenities to be named later, and that a phased -in approach should be considered when
designing the project. The plan should include a smaller splash pad, keeping in mind the busy nature
of this park and designing something that is conducive to fitting within the park. SECOND by
Eliason. Ayes: 4 Nays: 0 Motion passed.
c. Jaycee Park Playground Equipment — We mailed 600+ postcards to residents who live in the
neighborhoods around Jaycee Park notifying them of a public meeting at Jaycee Park to discuss the
new playground equipment. Six neighbors attended the meeting and offered input. They had the
following comments: include sensory items for kids with special challenges; don't include overhead
components and equipment that aren't accessible to kids unless an adult lifts them up or needed
adults to help them use (write this into specs); include rock or rope climbers, spring rockers, lily pad
rocker, more swings, a bucket swing and a tire swing; there was concern the temperature of slides;
dark surfacing materials get really hot; the park area is now three tiers — we'd like to eliminate at least
some of the steps and try to get it to two levels -we could possibly include a boulder wall. They also
asked for something new /different. We will try to include a variety of features and incorporate a
climber. They also asked for a basketball court. There was some talk of a natural themed park with
logs and boulders, but Jaycee Park may not be the best place for this. Possibly the new park in the
Bella Vista development would be a good location for this theme. Schultz will bring this item back
with an RFP to the next meeting.
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7. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Director's Report - The Parks Improvement Fund Balance as of May 31, 2013 was $491,254.55.
No dedication fees were received. No grants were received. There was interest of $12.62. There
were no donations and no expenditures.
Summer Programs — Summer programs are in full swing and going well. We had a successful Safety
Camp on June 7.
Eagle Scout Project — Two Eagle Scouts made improvements to tee boxes at the Brockway Park disc
golf course. The course is well used, and we get a lot of compliments on it.
Flint Hills Athletic Complex — The City Council approved grading at the site, grading started last
week and it's looking good. The general improvement project was put out for bid. Twelve
contractors purchased plans, but only two submitted bids. The bids came in a little over budget, but
we hope to save some money on the parking lot portion of the project.
8. ADJOURNMENT - MOTION by Bartz to adjourn the meeting. SECOND by Farrell.
Ayes: 4 Nays: 0 Motion passed. The meeting was adjourned at 9:14 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by
Sonja Honl, Recording Secretary
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