HomeMy WebLinkAbout4.a PCM RM 20170124PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
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I. Regular Meeting
Call to Order:
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, January
24, 2017. Chair Kenninger called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. with Commissioners VanderWiel, Freeman,
Clements, Mele, Henrie, and Forster. Also in attendance were Community Development Director Lindquist, Senior
Planner Klatt, Planner Nemcek, Project Engineer Hatcher, and Recording Secretary Roudebush.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
Additions to Agenda: None
Audience Input: None
Consent Agenda:
a. Approval of the December 13, 2016 Work Session Meeting Minutes.
b. Approval of the December 19, 2016 Meeting Minutes
MOTION by VanderWiel.
Second by Forster.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0.
Public Hearing:
5.a. Request by SKB Environmental for an Amendment to their 2016 Annual Mining Permit Considered an
Interim Use Permit. (17-04-IUP)
Community Development Director Lindquist gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Commissioner VanderWiel inquired about the surety total amount. Staff deferred the question to the applicant.
Chair Kenninger inquired about the wording of active mining since there is no mining happening at this tim e.
The public hearing opened at 6:38 pm.
Public comments:
Ryan O’Gara, SKB Environmental representative, was on hand for any questions. He stated that he would need to get
back to the Commission on the surety amount, but he thinks around $50,000.
MOTION by VanderWiel to close the public hearing.
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 6:40 pm.
Additional Comments:
Motion by Forster to Approve the Amended 2016 SKB Environmental Small Scale Extraction Permit
Second by Mele.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
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5.b.i. Request by Wayne Transport for a Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment (17-01-CPA)
Senior Planner Klatt gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Community Development Director Lindquist added that the Official Map was approved with the understanding that the
County would take the entire site. Since that time, it became clear the County didn’t want to acquire the full site.
Commissioner Clements inquired when the County would acquire the site. Lindquist stated that the portion needed for
the reconstruction has been acquired. Clements also asked for an explanation of what regional commercial would look
like. Klatt stated that it could be a shopping center or offices.
Chair Kenninger inquired about the future land use map and why the portion east of Conley Ave has been changed to
Business Park. Klatt stated that this map is from the current future land use map. The light pink is Business Park that
extends all the way down the 42 corridor. The light grey is Light Industrial and the dark grey is General Industry.
Commissioner Mele confirmed that if the Planning Commission doesn’t approve the Comprehensive Plan change then
the applicant would be required to remove the gravel parking lot. Klatt confirmed that is correct, staff would work with
the applicant to bring the site into compliance with the ordinances.
Chair Kenninger inquired if there is anything that can be done to allow the applicant to use the site as is until a
commercial use comes along. Klatt stated that only uses specifically listed in a particular zoning district are permitted,
and that the parking of semi-trailers is not an allowable interim use.
Commissioner Clements confirmed that the interim improvements from the County are concurrent with the City
bringing sewer to east side of Hwy 52.
Commissioner Forester inquired if the Comprehensive Plan doesn’t change is there sympathy based on the use, i.e. large
truck parking versus other uses that would require the minimum building size of 10% of the property. Klatt stated staff
is sympathetic but there is a need to follow the comp plan. Forester also questioned if the remaining acreage after
County acquisition is large enough to be marketable. Klatt stated that based on comparisons with other commercial sites
in the City, the lot size after County acquisition would be favorable for commercial development.
Lindquist explained that the 10% requirement is an ordinance created by the previous council. They felt the tax base was
low with trucking firms or other uses with small buildings and a lot of outside parking; the solution was the 10%
building requirement ordinance.
Public Hearing opened at 7:41 pm.
Public Hearing comments:
Joe Lauder, Attorney representing Wayne Transport/CCM Properties, feels that all issues should be looked at together
not individually. Mr. Lauder stated that the only reason the applicant proposed the change in the Comprehensive Guide
Plan is so they can get their variance request passed. They would like to continue using the property as it is currently
zoned. He spoke on the two exceptions that they think apply to their application. The first exception is the need to
generate a reasonable rate of return from the property. They do not think that a reasonable rate of return can be
generated without variances. The second exception is the government’s right to acquire property and restrict the use of
private property. Mr. Lauders stated that they believe that both exceptions apply to their applications. He does not think
that their proposed plan will interfere with future land use. He stated there are three facts that are key to understanding
their application. The first is that the government intends to construct a clover leaf on Wayne’s property at some point
in the future. The second is that the County has expressed the need to acquire the original taking area or possibly the
entire property for the cloverleaf project. The third is that the entire property remains officially mapped and restricted
for building. Mr. Lauders went on to explain how their variance is supported because there would be job loss if their
site plan is not approved, and parking is a reasonable use of the property.
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Carl Vedders, President of Wayne Transports, spoke about how his business would be affected by the denial of the
applications. He has been a member of Rosemount for 36 years, he employs about 250 employees at the Rosemount
facility and would add an additional 100 high paying jobs with the expansion. Mr. Vedders stated that they need a place
to park trucks to expand their business. They do not necessarily need to expand their office and shop space.
Chair Kenninger asked if the applicant is still in conversations with the County. Mr. Lauder stated that the most recent
conversation was in regard to the condemnation process. Since the County acquired the property they need for now,
they have not spoken about any additional land acquisitions.
Commissioner Henrie inquired why the applicant didn’t get the required permits to construct the parking lots. Mr.
Vedders stated that the County wanted to purchase property and Wayne wanted to use the property until the County
knew how much they were going to take but didn’t want to put a lot of money into the project. After being contacted by
the City, Wayne Transports developed multiple plans for the property, but did not submit these plans due to uncertainty
concerning the County’s future land acquisitions.
Commissioner Clements clarified that Wayne Transport still did the improvements during the whole process without the
necessary permits. Mr. Vedders confirmed that was true.
Commissioner Mele inquired when the official map was created and if they would have known of the County wanting to
take a piece of their property when Wayne Transport purchased the site. Lindquist stated the original map was from
2006 before Wayne Transport purchased the land. Mele also thanked Wayne for being an employer and job maker in
the city.
Commissioner VanderWiel inquired if there could be conditional variances approved or other middle ground to appease
both sides. Mr. Lauder was unsure if there are any conditions that could work.
Commissioner Mele supported the comments by Commissioner VanderWiel. He also feels like there has to be a middle
ground, and does not want to kick them off the property. Klatt stated the city has a right to guide land uses and deny
uses that are not conforming. There is an existing use on the property and the use isn’t being taken away from the
applicant. The zoning also has not changed and will not change until it is requested by the landowner or the City initiates
an amendment. The applicant has requested a use that is not consistent with the comprehensive guide plan. Lindquist
noted that the county won’t be acquiring any more than what they have already acquired at this time. She is also
concerned about what the triggers would be in place to have the variance expire since it could be 30 years or more. The
County would have acquired land now if there were plans to take more than what has been proposed. The City wants a
commercial use on the site to service new jobs and growth east of Hwy 52.
Commissioner VanderWiel inquired about the amount of money spent on the gravel parking lot and if the parking lot
could remain as is. Lindquist stated that gravel isn’t allowed and there are non-local regulations which are not being met
under the current situation. Lindquist also asked what happens when other developers seek similar treatment and ask to
install parking areas without curb and gutter. Others won’t know this is a temporary use. VanderWiel asked if we can
look at this from an IUP standpoint but within a set time it has to be removed. She noted that the applicant would have
to assume certain risk and that he was aware of the restrictions on the property when he acquired the land. Lindquist
stated that if the Commission wanted to permit the use on a temporary basis, the ordinance should be changed to allow
an IUP for a parking lot rather than using variances to permit the use.
Mr. Vedders stated that he feels the remaining property after future County acquisition is undesirable because of the
shape and resulting lack of access. The real issue is jobs or tax base.
Commissioner Clements confirmed that the assumption that Conley Ave wouldn’t be rerouted.
Commissioner Forster inquired if there is a limit in GI districts for impervious surfaces. Klatt stated that there is and
that it is a relatively high amount.
Commissioner Clements asked what will happen if the applications aren’t approved. Mr. Vedders stated he hasn’t looked
into that yet, and that he is still trying to find a solution to the current problem. The current location is convenient to
their current customers.
Chair Kenninger how much the necessary improvements would cost to bring the site into conformance with the Zoning
Ordinance. Mr. Vedders stated between $300,000 to $500,000.
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Commissioner Clements asked if the applicant would have sold to the County for the right price. Mr. Lauder stated that
is correct. Commissioner Clements inquired if the County had done an appraisal of the property an d if they had used
that for their proposed number. Mr. Lauder stated they had numbers for the original taking area but wasn’t sure if that
included the entire property. Mr. Vedders clarified that if they had agreed on a price he would have sold. He stated that
he was concerned about what the city would require before he could make an agreement with the County.
MOTION by Clements to close the public hearing.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 8:39 pm.
Additional Comments:
Chair Kenninger does not feel comfortable reguiding the site as it will make it harder to make it commercial in the
future.
Commissioner Forester stated he agrees with staff’s recommendation regarding the reguiding conclusion.
Commissioner Henrie asked for clarification on how the future designation of Commercial affects the current zoning of
General Industrial. Senior Planner Klatt stated that the owner may continue the previous use of the property as a
contractor’s office and shop. Klatt indicated that the City most likely retained the General Industrial zoning to recognize
the existing use and to allow it to continue as a conforming use .
Commissioner VanderWiel agrees that the point of the Comprehensive Plan is to avoid issues like this.
Commissioner Henrie questioned if the applicant could apply for an IUP. Klatt stated that the Zoning Ordinance does
not identify truck storage as a permitted interim use . Henrie also asked for clarification on what could remain if the
comprehensive plan amendment is not approved. Klatt stated the 10,000 sq. ft. building, access and parking lot could
stay. Continued use of the gravel parking area north of the building is questionable. Additional research as to whether
that area is a legal non-conforming use would need to be made.
Commissioner Freeman also agrees that changing the comprehensive plan is not preferable and she does not want to
deter future commercial development.
Commissioner Henrie stated he would be voting against motion one, not to deny it. He feels that there needs to be an
allowed use for this site. Lindquist clarified that the property has a use and value; there is an existing building and
parking lot. Henrie feels it greatly reduces the use and future use.
Motion by VanderWiel to recommend the City Council deny a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the future
land use designation of Lot 1, Block 1 and Outlot B of Rich Valley Industrial Park from RC – Regional Commercial to
GI – General Industrial based on the findings documented in the “Conclusions and Decision” section of the staff
report.
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 6. Nays: 1-Henrie. Motion Passes.
RECESS REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND OPEN BOARD OF APPEALS AND
ADJUSTMENTS MEETING
MOTION by Clements to recess Planning Commission meeting and open Board of Appeals and Adjustments meeting.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0.
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5.b.ii. Request by Wayne Transport for a Variance (17-02-V)
Public Comment opened at 8:56 pm.
Public comments:
Joe Lauder, Attorney representing Wayne Transport/CCM Properties, noted that his comments from the previous
hearing would also apply to this hearing.
Chair Kenninger confirmed that, based upon the applicant’s comments, the only variance really needed is the building
variance and that they could work around the parking setback variance. Mr. Lauder confirmed that this was correct.
Paul Cherne, Pioneer Engineer, stated that they thought the side yard setback was 25 feet from Conley but staff report
noted a 40-foot setback requirement. He said that there would be no problem meeting the required setback.
Commissioner Clements asked for confirmation that Wayne Transports could join the subject property with their parcel
immediately to the north. Mr. Cherne stated they would need to discuss with staff to determine any ramifications first.
Commissioner Forester inquired about the area of impervious surface. Mr. Cherne did not know off hand, but guessed
that the plan is approximately 50% hard surface when the requirement is 75%.
MOTION by Forester to close the public hearing.
Second by Henrie.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 9:01 pm.
Additional Comments:
Commissioner Clements is concerned about the precedent that other companies would want to be allowed the same sort
of variances. He questioned whether the industrial look and shape will not meld with future residential development in
the area.
Commissioner VanderWiel supported the comments from Clements.
Chair Kenninger feels that even with removing the setback variances, there are still concerns or issues that prevent
continuation of future desired uses.
Commissioner Forester feels there should be a happy medium. There are many unique characteristics associated with the
property and if the applicant wants to risk investing on the property for a possible short-term use then that is a risk they
should be allowed to take. He stated his intent to vote against the denial.
Commissioners discussed possible future outcomes of voting in favor or against the variances.
Commissioner Mele feels there are no unique circumstances, and indicated that the property owner had made a mistake
by improving the site without proper permits. He noted that the City does not have an obligation to appease them.
Commissioner Henrie stated that he does have a problem with the applicant not obtaining permits but disagrees and
feels that the property is in fact unique. There is a right of way and there have been negotiations about purchasing parts
of the property.
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Commissioner Clements also has problems with not obtaining necessary permits and he could understand if this had
snuck up on them. But this was in place before they purchased the property and they should have known about the
restrictions. He has a shed on his property but followed the rules so he didn’t need a permit. But when he put up his
fence he knew the rules and he needed to obtain a permit.
Commissioner VanderWiel stated she has sympathy for the applicant but if we give into that sympathy it could last for
decades and not just for this one property owner.
Chair Kenninger agrees with VanderWiel.
Motion by VanderWiel for the Board of Appeals and Adjustment to adopt Resolution BA2017-01 denying variances for
parking setback standards and minimum building size requirements as required in the GI – General Industrial Zoning
District standards based on the findings documented in the “Conclusions and Decision” section of the staff report.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 5. Nays: 2: Henrie and Forester. Motion Passes.
MOTION by Clements to recess board of appeals and adjustments meeting and reopen the planning commission
meeting.
Second by Mele
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0.
CONTINUE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND CLOSE BOARD OF APPEALS
AND ADJUSTMENTS MEETING
5.b.iii. Request by Wayne Transport for a Site Plan Review (17-03-SP)
Public Comment opened at 9:16 pm.
Public comments:
Joe Lauder, representing Wayne Transport, asked the Commission to consider his earlier comments as well. He asked
the Commission to consider that the site plan application also includes the mapping request and that the application be
approved as an exception to the official mapping requirements.
MOTION by Clements to close the public hearing.
Second by Freeman
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 9:18 pm.
Additional Comments:
Motion by Clements to deny the site plan review for Wayne Transports to allow the expansion of a truck trailer parking
area on Lot 1, Block 1 and Outlot B of Rich Valley Industrial Park based on the findings documented in the
“Conclusions and Decision” section of the staff report.
Second by VanderWiel.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
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5.c.i. Request by Flint Hills Resources for landscaping and setback requirements. (17-05-V, 17-06-V)
Planner Nemcek gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Commissioner Clements inquired about ingress and egress to the site and any concerns about truck traffic. Nemcek
stated access is off oflocated on Pine Bend Trail. Hatcher stated they did look at stacking on Hwy 52, and after
discussions with the applicantapplicant, it is not an issue.
RECESS REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND OPEN BOARD OF APPEALS AND
ADJUSTMENTS MEETING
MOTION by Forester to recess planning commission meeting and open board of appeals and adjustments meeting.
Second by Mele
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0.
Public Comment opened at 9:42 pm.
Public comments:
Don Kern, Flint Hills Resources, described the project to the commissioners.
MOTION by Freeman to close the public hearing.
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 9:44 pm.
Additional Comments: None
Motion by Mele for the Board of Appeals and Adjustments to approve a variance from the Landscaping Ordinance
requirements for required plantings with the following conditions:
1. Payment of $25,500 in lieu of planting 85 trees.
2. Planting of 85 trees on the berm being created on the western boundary of Flint Hills Resources’ property.
Second by Forester.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
Motion by VanderWirel for the Board of Appeals and Adjustments to approve a variance from the Zoning Ordinance
setback requirements.
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
MOTION by Clements to recess board of appeals and adjustments meeting and reopen the planning commission
meeting.
Second by Freeman
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0.
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CONTINUE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND CLOSE BOARD OF APPEALS
AND ADJUSTMENTS MEETING
5.c.ii. Request by Flint Hills Resources for a Site plan review of an Ammonium Thiosulfate (ATS) Storage and
Load Out Facility (17-07-SP)
Planner Nemcek gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Public Comment opened at 9:24 pm.
Public comments:
Don Kern and Chris Brown from Flint Hills Resources were on hand to answer any questions.
Commissioner Forester inquired if the other tanks will come down. Mr. Brown stated they willwould take down 4 large
and 4 small tanks on the edge of Hwy 52.
Chair Kenninger asked if the other tanks willwould be removed in future. Mr. Brown is unsure.
MOTION by Freeeman to close the public hearing.
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 9:49 pm.
Additional Comments: None
Motion by VanderWiel to recommend that the City Council approve the site plan for Flint Hills Resources to allow
construction of an Ammonium Thiosulfate (ATS) Storage and Loadout Terminal at 12895 Courthouse Boulevard,
subject to conditions:
1. Issuance of a building permit.
2. Submission of a landscape security equal to one hundred and ten percen t (110%) of the total cost of the
required plantings.
3. All trash containers shall be stored within a building or an enclosure consistent with the standards in Section 5 -
1-3.
4. Conformance with all conditions of the City Engineer as outlined in the memo date d January 24, 2016
Second by Clements.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
5.d. Request by Flint Hills Resources for Conditional Use Permit to approve a structure taller th an 250 feet for
a Coker Derrick (16-55-CUP)
Planner Nemcek gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Chair Kenninger inquired about the current zoning of heavy industrial but comp guidethe Comprehensive Guide Plan
says general industrial. Lindquist clarified that General Industrial can be zoned either Heavy or Llight Iindustrial. She
also asked about the view rendering provided by the applicant showing the proposed structure and how close the nearest
road home would be. Nemcek stated it is near Greystone III.
Commissioner Forester inquired about the size of the footprint and if this will be the tallest structure at the facility.
Nemcek deferred the questions to the applicant.
The public hearing opened at 9:57 pm.
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Public comments:
Don Kern, Flint Hills Resources, explained their technology and efficiency initiative as well as how this will help them
achieve that goal. He also explained the coker process. He stated the footprint is roughly 100 ft. x 75 ft and the flair
stacks are higher than the new cokers.
Commissioner Henrie asked about the project timeline. Jake Rients, from Flint Hills Resources stated it will start in
2017 and end in 2020.
MOTION by Clements to close the public hearing.
Second by Mele.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 10:02 pm.
Motion by Henrie to recommend that the City Council to approve the Conditional Use Permit for a 346 foot tall Coker
Derrick with a minimum setback of 2,000 feet, subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with FAA lighting standards for structures taller than 200 feet.
2. Issuance of all required building permits.
3. Compliance with all applicable state and federal air emission standards.
Second by Forester.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
5.e. Request by Flint Hills Resources for barge dock ramp improvements within the FP -Floodplain Zoning
District and site plan approval for a project within the Mississippi River Critical Area overlay district (16-57-
CUP)
Planner Nemcek gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Commissioner Mele inquired about the width of the road; Nemcek stated about 12 feet wide.
Commissioner Freeman inquired what will happen to the dock after the coker project. Nemcek stated it will be
permanent structure and will use it for future projects.
Commissioner Clements confirmed that only Flint Hills has access to the dock..
Commissioner Forester asked about road reinforced. Hatcher stated that MnDot would determine that what is needed
to accommodate the load.
The public hearing opened at 10:08 pm.
Public comments:
Don Kern, Flint Hills Resources, stated that the access road can currently handle two way traffic. They will use special
trucks to transport the coker and will need to obtain special permits from MnDot to transport the coker to the site. They
also plan to use the dock for future projects.
MOTION by Clements to close the public hearing.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 10:12 pm.
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Motion by Clements to recommend that the City Council approve a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan Review for
Barge Dock Improvements at Flint Hills Refinery, subject to the following conditions:
1. Issuance of a grading permit to ensure appropriate erosion control procedures are in place and to monitor
timing of the project.
2. The applicant must comply with all state and federal regulations covering projects located within the
Mississippi River corridor.
3. All applicable permits, including DNR and Corps of Engineers permits, shall be properly secured before
starting work.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
Old Business: None.
New Business: None
Reports: None
Adjournment: There being no further business to come before this Commission, Chair Kenninger adjourned the
meeting at 8:59 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Amy Roudebush, Recording Secretary
II. Work Session-Comprehensive Plan Update
The work session was delayed to future date due to the length of the regular meeting.