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Home My WebLink About3.a. Receive Petition for Stop Signs at 153rd Street and Darjeeling Avenue F CITY OF ROSEMOUNT EXECUTIVE SIJPvIlVIARY FOR ACTION CI'TY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: MAY 16,1995 AGENDA ITIIVI: Receive Petition for Stop Signs at 153rd Street AGENDA SECTION: and Darjeeling Avenue NEW BUSINE5S PREPARED BY: Thomas D. Burt, City Administrator AGENDA�� ATTACFaVIENTS: Neighborhood Petition; APPROVED BY: December 21, 1993 Executive Summary, 5peed Survey from May 8,9, 1995 `�' Residents along 153rd Street have asked for this item to be pla.ced on the agenda and I expect to receive a petition for a stop sign and children at play signs at 153rd Street and Darjeeling Avenue. They have expressed a concern that vehicles are speeding on 153rd Street and they are worried for the children's safety. A representative from the neighborhood will be present if the City Council has questions for them. A similar petition was submitted December 7, 1993, and the results are encluded for your review. RECOMN�NDED ACTION: MOTION to receive petition and direct sta.ff to conduct a traffic study to determine warrants for traff'ic controL COUNCIL ACTION: , � C(TY OF ROSEMOUNT EXECUTIV6 SUMMARY FOR ACTfON C�TY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: December 21, 1993 AGENDA ITEM: (ntersecrtion Traffic Investigation - 153rd AGENDA SECTION: Street and Danbury Avenue Oid Business PREPARED BY: Bud Osmundson AGENDA NO Cit En ineer/Assistant Pubfic Works Director ��=x� - °�� ` Y 9� g ��..� f. �...} ATTACHMENTS: Letter from Residents, Map, Traffic APP ED B : Literatur�, Memo, SEH Memo The City received a letter requesting a traffic investigation at 15 rd and Danbury Avenue and 155th and Danbury at its December 7, 1993 meeting. It is brought back to you on tonights agenda after Staff investigation. Please read the attached memo for background information. A. 153rd Street & Danbury: The traffic warrants for the installation of a two-way stop sign are attached and the first warrant is met for 153rd and Danbury. The investigation has shown that 153rd and 152nd is a more important or main road and therefore meets Warrant #1 for stop sign installation. We have given consideration to installation of yie(d signs at Danbury and 153rd. However, with the additional traffic which will be forthcoming after the 1994 construction season we fee! it is justified to install the stop sign at this time. This also wou{d hold true for all side streets or minor streets as they intersect with 152nd/153rd Street. 6. 155th Street & Danbury: The request at this intersection is for a stop sign and a piayground/reduced speed sign. The traffic counts, as shown on the attached map, are in the 200-300 range on these two streets. This is somewhat higher than a normal residentia( street. The 155th and Danbury Avenue intersection meets the first warrant for a yield sign, which is that of right-of-way assignment. It is recommended that a yield sign be placed at 155th Street prior to Danbury Avenue. This would assign Danbury Avenue as the through roadway. Since Danbury Avenue is adjacent to a major park, Jaycee Park, it is recommended that we do place a "Playground" sign along Danbury Avenue at or near 155th Street and another at 156th Street when that roadway is completed. Further enforcement of the speed limit and patroUing of the area will be the best control for traffic speed. When the weather allows, (probably spring of 1994) cross-walks will be painted as appropriate at this intersection. The following resolutions are recommended for the Stop and Yield sign placement which are "regufatory" signs. The Child At Play signs are warning wigns and do not need a resolution. RECOMMENDED ACTION: MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING STOP SIGNS ALONG 152ND AND 153RD STREETS FROM DIAMOND PATH (The Apple Valley Border) TO SHANNON PARKWAY. MOT10N TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A YIELD SIGN ON 155TH STREET AT DANBURY AVENUE. COUNCIL ACTION: �i� ��' �� c� S�v 4 CITY OF ROSEMOUNT ' DAKOTA COUNTY, MtNNESOTA RESOLUTION 1993 - A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING STOP SIGNS ALONG 152ND AND 153RD STREETS FROM DIAMOND PATH (The App{e Valiey Border� TO SHANNON PARKWAY WHEREAS, the City has received a petition from residents living within the Wensmann First through Fifth Additions; and WHEREAS, the City of Rosemount is concerned for safety of its residents tiving along and traveling streets within these Additions; and WHEREAS,the City Engineer of Rosemount has investigated the trafiFic data on these streets and WHEREAS,the City recognizes the importance of adhering to the principles of The Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for traffic control on its streets, and that warrants for particular regulatory signs, as required in the Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, must be met prior to their installation; and WHEREAS, the City Engineer has determined that 152nd Street and 153rd Street have a higher traffic volume and is geometrically a "main" road compared to intersecting streets and is a segment of street where the app(ication of the normal right-of-way rule is unduly hazardous; and WHEREAS, this is the first warrant listed in The Minnesota Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices for the installation of stop signs. NQW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council of the City of Rosemount, Minnesota: Stop signs shall be installed at all minor streets intersecting with 152nd and 153rd Streets between Diamond Path (not yet constructed) and Shannon Parkway and the signs be perpetually maintained by the City. qDOPTED this 21 st day of December, 1�993. E. B. McM�nomy, Mayor ATTEST: Susan M. Walsh, City Clerk MOTION BY: SECONDED BY: VOTED IN FAVOR: VOTED AGAINST: ,. CtTY OF ROSEMOUNT DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA RESOLUTION 1993 - A RESO�UTION ESTABLiSHfNG A YIELD SIGN ON '155TH STREET AT DANBURY AVENUE WHEREAS, the City has received a petition from residents living within the Wensmann First through Fifth Additions and WHEREAS, the City of Rosemount is concerned for safety of its residents (iving along and traveiing streets within these Additions; and WHEREAS,the City Engineer of Rosemount has investigated the traffic data on these streets; and WHEREAS,the City recognizes the importance of adhering to the principles of The Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for traffic control on its streets, and that warrants for particular regulatory signs, as required in the Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, must be met prior to their installation; and WNEREAS, the City Engineer has determined that it is necessary to assign right-of-way at Danbury Avenue and 155th Street; and WHEREAS, this is the first warrant listed in The Minnesota Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices for the installation of yield signs. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council of the City of Rosemounrt, ;,�f;:�nesota: A Yield sign shal{ be installed on 155th Street at Danbury Avenue and the signs be perpetually maintained by the City. ADOPTED this 21 st day of December, 1993. E. B. McMenomy, Mayor ATTEST: Susan M. Walsh, City Clerk MOTION BY: SECONDED BY: VOTED IN FAVOR: VOTED AGAINST: MEMO TO: Mayor McMenomy Councii Members: Klassen, Staats, WiOcox, Wippermann FRDM: Bud Osmundson, City Engineer/Assistant Public Works Director DATE: December 17, 1993 RE: Intersection Investigation & Placement of Traffic Signs Wensmann Additions This memo serves as background or general information for you in regards to intersection investigation. The City has and should continue to consistently follow the Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for Streets and Hiqhways as a guide for placement of traffic signs. Without this guide the haphazard placement of signs could result, which could expose the City to liability should an accident occur that might be attributed in whole or in part to the presence of an unwarranted device. This a(so could expose the recommending engineer or Council to the same liability. I will not expose myself to this liability, but Counci! has the authority to override my recommendations and order the placement of signs. The Police Department has determined that there has been eight accidents in this study area since 1991 . Most have been along 153rd Street with one being a personal injury accident. The basic purpose of Stop or Yield signs is to assign right-of-way at intersections. Stop signs are a substantial inconvenience to motorists and should only be used where warranted. (See SEH one page article) Stop signs are consistently requested by residents in an effort to control speeding on neighborhood streets. However, numerous studies have concluded that Stop signs have little overall effect on controlling speed. Our policy in the past has been to put "playground" or "child at play" warning signs only on Collector or main roads. We have requests for these signs during the summer months almost weekly for most neighborhood streets and could install them on every street if the Council so desires. However, the literature that has been compiled by Traffic Engineers across the United States has shown that these do very little to slow traffic after the first week or two of installation. We would have to add thousands of dollars annually to the budget to begin putting these signs on every street as requested. However, since Danbury Avenue is adjacent to a major park, Jaycee Park, it is recommended that we do place a "Playground" sign along Danbury Avenue at or near 155th Street and another at 156th Street when that roadway is completed. Further enforcement of the speed limit and patroliing of the area will be the best control far traffic speed. This Wensmann Addition area has produced a number of inquiries regarding the installation of traffic control signs since Ron became Public Works Director and myself as City Engineer. Attached is a study completed by S.E.H., Inc. in September of 1992 for the Danville-155th Street intersection. The recommendation far that intersection was to leave it as is. However, t am willing to recommend the instalfation of a Yie(d sign in anticipation of increased traffic from development to the south. We had traffic counts completed in this area this past fall which were to be used in a traffic investigation of this neighborhood in anticipation of the construction of the "connecting streets" to the south in 1994. Prior to this, no traffic counts were taken on these streets. Danville, Danbury, 156th Street and Dariing Path all will be connected with the construction of the West Ridge 5th Additio� and Shannon Pond 2nd Addition. This "connsction" will change the traffic patterns in this area substantially upon their cornpletion. Then, more analysis will be required to add�ess the traffic problem areas. This is a normal procedure with "neighborhood" streets as cornpared to major collectors or highways where the right-of-way question is ctear cut. , , � .—_.._..-------- � � December 1, 1993 : � City of Rosemount Engineering Dept. 2875-145th Street West Rosemount, 2�1 ' Dear Mayor McMenomy and Council Members, It has become a growing concern in our n�iqhborhood the lack af proper traffic siqns. We would like to have the city mark the following roads/intersec- tions as requested so as to reduce traffic problems that now exist and to prevent any harm. to the child- ren that are in the area. IIncoIItrOlted fsterBer�oII it I33rd and I�sn�n�e�: A need - for yield or stop signs is needed to at Ieast address � the riqht of way of t=affic crossinq over 153rd. - � Cpts�et'p�€ISStb StteCt and D�a�i�i'y: A stop s iqn is � � needed along with a "Playground/Reduce speed* sign. Danbury at this time is a dead-end to the sou`�.h of 155th st�eet so t�a`fic traveling west to eas� on 155th street assumes any south bound traffic from Danbu=y w�ll be turning which is not always the case. The corner alsa includes pedestrian traffic crossing o�er to the bike path entrance of the Jaycee Pa�k. We would like the above intersections looked at immed- iately a.nd marked so as to alleviate any further traffic accidents or problems. Attached are signatures of those � who would also like to acknowledge the same concems _ as listed above. Thank- for your assistance in this matter, ..-- ��..1_ + � �� Stephen F. Belting � - 4190 155th St. W. :� Rosemount, MN _� ; . 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Ct �S O �,2s 153rd 47, �ra ,,.,.,,.,,,.,., . � p � ��' 1 � 3 r d St . � a��/� 3so 15� � co — G � 4.�� Ct - ❑�2a Tr � �5 � > - � � i �� S� �"`' J C PARK '�"'_' Darlin Path . � - - �0�4 . ,,�.;:�,� . - � � .: .. : � �t � . � 1�6�n �= � St� � . �' �� ,��. :;�,� ��.� 1��th � St Q. � � ----. - . U. �. 7�� . >� , Ct h . � _ � � � a � _ ��- � o . . •- a � i �S� v . j � > a�- � : .-tr� Q . C'Y�ta! Path = - f+ Qi . , . � V - .� - _ � 57th Ct �1 �7 th St � . s • •� r � ,.+ ." �t C f L! C� � �. ..L �. �t 2B-5 Warrants for Stop Sign : Because the STOP sign causes a substantial inconvenience to motorisu, it should be used only wh�ze warranted.A STOP sign may be warranted at an intersection where one or more of the following conditions exist: 1. Inursectian of a less important road with a main road where application of thc normal right-of-way rulc is unduly hazardous. ' 2. Sueet entering a through highway or strcet. 3. Unsignalized intersecuon in a si�alized azea. 4. Other intersections where a combination of high speed, restricted vicw,and serious accident record indicates a need for control by the STOP sign. Prior to the applicauon of these warranu,consid�ration should be given to less resuictive mcasures, such az the YIELD sign (2B-'n where a full • Srop is not neccssary at all times. Periodic reviews of existing installations • , may be desirable to determinc whether, because of changed conditions, � the usc of less restrictive control or no control could accommodate traffic demands safely and more effectively. 2B-6 Multiw•af Stop Signs The"MulLiwa}Stop" installation is usefuI �,s a safety measure at some � locations. It should ordinarily be used only wherc the volume of traffic on the intersecting roads is approximately equal. A trafiic control signal is more satisfactory for an intersection uzth a heavy volume of uaffic. Any of the following conditions may warrant a multiway STOP sign installation (scc. 2B�): '^i 1. Where traific signais are warranted and urgently noeded, the ��itiway stop is an interim measure that can be installed quickly to control traffic wiule arrangtmcnu are being made for thc signal installation. 2. An accident problem, as indicated by five or more reported aceidents of a type susceptible of correction by a multiway stop�installation in a 12-month period. Such accidents include right- and left-turn collisions zs well as right-angle collisions. 3. Minimum traffic volumer. (a) The total vehicular volume tntcring the intersection from all approaches must average at least 500 vehicles per hour for any 8 hours of an averagc day, and (b) The combined vehicular and pedestrian volume from thc minor_ street or highway must average at least 200 units per hour for th�same 8 hours,with an average delay to minor street vchicular traffic of at least 30 seconds per vehicle during the maximum hour, but � (c) When the 85-percentile approach spe�d of the major street traffic :exceeds 40 miles per hour, the minimum vehiculaz volume wazrant is 70 'percent of the above requiremenu. 2B-7 Yieid Sign (Rl-2) The YIELD sign assigns right-of-way to traffic on certain approaches to an intersection. Vehicles controlled by a YIELD sign need stop only when necessary to avoid interference�zth other traffic that is given the right-of- way. : The YIELD sign shall be a downward pointing, equilateral trianglc having a red border band and a white incerior and the word YIELD in red inside the border band. The standard size shall bt 36 x 36'x 36 inches. -� / YIELD � � � �� `:' 2B-8 Warrants for Yie{d Signs ; The YIELD sign may be warranted: ' : 1. At the entrance to an intersection whcre it is necessary to assign �rigktt-of-way and where the safe approach speed on the entrance exceeds ; 10 miles per hour. . { 2. On the entzance ramp to an expressway where an acceleration lane is :not provided. � 3. At intersections on a divided highway where the median between the ;roadways is more than 30 feet wide. At such intersections, a STOP sign �may bc used at thc rntrance to the first roadway of thc divided highway i and a YIELD sign may bc placcd at the entrance to thc second roadway. ` 4. Where there is a separate or channelized right-turn lane, without an' �adequatc zc.celeration lane. i5. At any intersection where a special problem exisu and where an �engineering study indicates the problem to be susceptiblc to correctian by '.use of thc YIELD sign. YIELD signs generally should not bc placcd to conuol thc major flow of traffc at an interscction. However� YIELD signs may be installed to control a ma}or traffic movement where a majority of drivers in that movanent are making righi turns (set page 2A-1�. At such an .intersection� YIELD signs should not be erected on more than one _ iapproach. , � YIELD signs should not be used on the through roadways of expressways. They may be used on an entering roadway without an adequatt accclerauon lane. but in a well-daigned interchange, the sign would interfere with thc free merging movement,and it should not be used under those circumstances. ��..W .S ' - : - ENGINEERS�ARCMITEC75/PLAMMERS 3535 VADNAtS CENTc'A ORIVE.ST PAUC.MN 551 t0•5�08 672 d90-2000 800 325-2055 September 23, 1992 RE: ROSEMOUNT, MINNESOTA DANVILLE AVENUE AND I55TH STREET TRAFFIC CONTROL NEEDS SEH FILE N0. 92214 Mr. Ron Wasmund Public Works Director City of Rosemount P.O. Box 510 Rosemount, MN 55068-0510 Dear Ron: Earlier this year, the City requested that we review traffic control needs at two intersections; 145th Street and Shannon Parkway and 153rd Street and Danville Avenue. At a subsequent meeting with the City staff, we obtained a copy of a petition which asked for a study of the 145th Street and Shannon Parkway intersection, but also the Shannon Parkway and Dodd Boulevard intersection. We received accident data for the two intersections on Shannon Parkway but apparently there are no - accidents at 155th Street and Danvi2le Avenue. The intersection of Danville Avenue and 155th Street is a "Tee" intersection in a residential district. A short distance east of Danville Avenue, 155th Street ands at Danbury Avenue. To the west, 155th Street connects to the Apple Valley Street system and stops a few blocks west of the city limits. Danville Avenue is . only a block in length with a second Tee intersection at Darjeeling Avenue. Generally, the traffic on either street is local in nature. � __ Because this is a e intersection, we be ieve state law requires motorists on the 'stem of the Tee" (Danvi le Avenue) to yield to traffic on 155t Street. This generall seems to occur at Tee intersections due to the need of traf ' on the stem of the Tee to slow down and tu t. Thus, the intersection generally seems to ope ate quite well without control. �� 4 � N� 5 �G�P-F��P�� -�" �1J 1�,.��J G- ' S.�n�� N�,'"'r.� SHORT ELL�07T hiENDRlCKSONlNC 5T CLOUD.1dN CHIPP�WAFALLS.W! MADlSON.Wl � Mr. Ron Wasmund September 23, 1992 Page #2 Because Danville Avenue traffic is required to yield and is on a Tee inte=section, and because the intersection is only a short distance away from another Tee intersection at Danbury Avenue, we do not believe that stop signs or yield signs are needed or desirable. Leaving the intersection uncontrolled is consistent with many other Tee intersections within Rosemount and within this area af Dakota County. We would therefore recommend that no signs be installed at this time. Should you have any questions or need any further information, please call upon us. Sincerely, ' V�� • Glen Van Wormer, P.E. Manager, Transportation Department GVwjcmb c: Bud Osmundson � Dave Simons ' ' , � -f- �j . ^ , ��,� �\ vl�� . . '��V . 1 � � . . . . . . . . �� Stop StgCIS" � : It seems so easy and inexpensive—��e can pollution in urban areas are generallq at inter- A sto�sign is one o f discourage un��anted traffic from using a sections�+�ith high��olumes of idling traffic. our rnost valuai�ic street and control the speeds of the remaining Researclt has sho�+m that 1,000 automobiles ar:d ef fective tra f fic •traffic by simply installin�a stop sion.At least decelerating to a stop from 3�mph and then cof:troi devices... that is��•hat cities and tounties are told daily , acceleratin�,back again�vill increase carbon when used at the by concerned residents.But does it really monoxide emission by 24 pounds,hydrocar- right pIace arid ti,,ork,or is it just a s�rmbol that really does not bons by 1J pounds and nitrogen oxide by 1.9 urider the right deter traffic?Or��orse yet,does the stop sia pounds.These quantities may be slightly high coriditio�:s. �eate larger traffic problems?� for neti+�cars,but they represent che situation Stop sia s have been installed and studied �+•here onlv single cars are stopping• often so many of their benefits and detriments The stated cost of a stop sign may be mea- can be predicted for a particular location.A sured by its cost of approximately S�O to ..� :, ,�� , s M�.. �.�^l„. stop si�is one of install.The true cost should reflect vehicle '''►'''_`-�" � " '`=' ��> our most valuable impacts. A single stop sign installed on a a r•. " �'� "' ��'� ��`' � r and effecti�re traffic mph street in a V�'isconsin city�ras calculated � F�:.� It I. control de��ices... by university enaineers to increase annual fuel ;•,��' "'�' _ -�cm � -� _ �o�hen used at the costs by 60,000 gallons or abouE 5T,000 per � � �� `____�__,y;,_. right place and }�ear. . �-""'--'' �-'`� "_-'` r'-i=-- under the right con- Installing a stop sign or series of stop signs =�--:=�.--��' :__.:_ ' .:.J�.,=_-- ' ��' � �--_.,-_�_ _�=�_�� ditions.It can also may di��ert some traffic from that street. --^-; V - ,�,...�.__.._ =. ._.- -•- - " - ' - � � - - - create a dangerous Unfortunately,that traffic may be dieerted to -� - -'. ,;...�.�r,._:�=:�,:_�:::�- _ situation and anothez street�.•here ultimately the same y-�' -•=•-^�-= ' � - and for a sto si mav be made.Traffic ._ m _ __ de �. �� :`�____ ffec- P � - � ..: ._. =._'.:..,�-...�:.. _ '. - dimuush the e ti��eness of other signs�+�hen improperly used. may be di�Terted to secondarv streets less able It is often assumed that installing a stop sign to safelti•carry the traffic volume.Studies have :.•ill slo«•t:a;fic along a stretch of road.linfor- not been able to docvment anv long term rsnatelv,o��erall speed may actuall}'increase. reducrion in traffic caused by�the simple R number of dri��ers are some�1•hat irritated installation of a stop sign. bv the installarion of these"speed control stop A final concern over installing a stop sia at ' signs" and develop a tendency to make up for an intersettion��ith a loti�volume traffic on lost time by over accelerating or by traveling the cross street,or at a mid-block location,has at higher speeds between signs. to do�+�ith the effectiveness of the sign itself A study in San Francisco shoti,led that and its impact on other stop si�ns.A Michigan speeds only 100 feet past the stop sign were study sho«�ed that approximately halt of the within 3 mph of the top level of speeds.This motorists made a rolling stop at the stop signs study also showed that speeds at a mid-block on local streets,and one-quarter of traffic did location,two blocks from any stop sign were not stop at all.Observations throughout the St� 3-�mph higher�ti ith a stop sign than after the Paul and Minneapolis metropolitan area have stop signs had been removed.The only actual aLso showii a high volume of rolling stops at reduction in speed appears to be within a few intersections where cross traffic conflicts are hundred feet of the stap sign itself. not anticipated.Acddents do occur with stap Residents near the stop sign,while seeing signs and acddent rates can inaease afta lower speeds,are faced with other new prob- installation of stop signs. lems.Decelerating and accelerating vehicles When stop signs are requested to rnntrol make more noise than those passing at a con- speed or discourage traffic,the best approach stant speed.Commercial vehicles,diesel may be to ana- F�,�e�tmmt � engine vehicles,and those with exhaust prob- lyze the problem ttr�.�,�f��,�o�:w� lems or modifications add significantly to the and situation in G��yan Wornra, noise level�vhen accelerating. detail and look r,,,,��.rar;m, There is aLso an air quality element associ- for alternative D�nme�tt Manager. �� ' ated t,�ith��ehicle stops.Hot spots for air solutions.= - " ,� ' - . . , •• . . . . •. .. . ;, ' .. . ... ' . . .. . ' '. .� �. . .. . . . s 'r ►+�.::r- . . . . � � � ,f�„r�.'✓'.p'iC��•1~��+�*'r�t,krr. ... . . . . � .t 1� r�v4.�. ��✓�'��d�� 'Y�iJ '`'J�n:.�. � . . . "i'I_�:.:�+lw.i^.]i�"��`i�^fsaea . . � . . Unnecessary Signs `: . . . • . . ' • ' Obsaleu and unncccssarysigns confuse � � . • - � and annoy drivcrs.Thcy can givc a fals: scnse of s�uriry and thcy can br�:.d a • . � � disrespect for all signs.According ta thc . . � Kentucky Transporcation Ceata,PerhaPs j the worst offcndcr is the"Children ac Play" � sign.Local ofBcizls oftui face public ; • pressure to insrall thcsc signs,and althoagh :. they have bera posud in many communi• . ties,there is no evidencr sfsat they prevcnt injury or d�r�se the sp�=.�of veaicies. � ; - . . $�� '�:r�„ � � :: _ . - .� , . +,�;,,, � . - : . . . . . _ . � '�Z• � �1. . - .. .. . . . . �.� ":�.rw�: � ~+ . �t - " . . ' ' � � �.r^.r' � ��+-�.R'r� '415� j . • �,,,r,i..er,.�s�•' �z�", f . . � ..-tic;+::a:a._:.:.:�' � . . ' . ��'�(p�Y"signs caa�ive g�rzu . . . and c�dren a ialse sc.�s:.of s�:�iry.Sinc- nearly evcry resid:arial bloc�has c:iudr..a : Iiving on it,the.�would have ta be si�s oa cach one.Bloc�with no signs might imps� ttsac no c.�uldrn live ther,-,so ic is o�y�n . . s�eai.Chilc3ren cquld also misint�Pre:tho signs to mean ic is ac:..-pcable to piay in the SII'GL P 5�3Tt�3ICL5 • rpt Lt7C5C SL.'.SOI1S,fCt�..23Z SI$n discourage the usa of"Childrea at Play" signs.Howevu.siSns shonld and can be ' posu,�foz sc.'�ool zones,Pedes�an cross- ings,P1aY8roands,and ochcr ze�caQonal areas.For more informadon on the propcs use of signs.consult the Manual on ' . . . . .. Uniform Traf�ic Connol Dovicrs(available . � � through ATSSA)(The Lank.VoL 5,No.4, . . ' Kenmcky Transportarion Cens.er). R03EMOIINT POLICE DEPAATMENT M E M O R A N D U M TO: Thomas Burt, City Administrator FROM: Elliel Knutsen, Chief of Police � ��.� RE: Speed Survey - 153rd St West and Darjeeling Path DATE: May 10, 1995 Per your request officers monitored traffic speeds on 153rd St West near Darjeeling Path. The monitoring was done on five different time periods on May 8-9, 1995. Fifty -seven vehicles were clocked by traffic radar. Overall average speed was 28.25 miles per hour. Two citations were issued during the monitoring. ROSEMOUNT POLICE DEPARTMENT SPEED SURVEY LOCATION: �S3 �- �, � k.�` e�l��.�__ DATE/TIIVIE: S�—$-f� �a3�3s' . OFFICER: 13 SQUAD# ,�r� SPEED DIRECTION MISC. 2� � �.� � : 3� �' 23 � 23" � �S f'z' 3 �- U'° �� F Z� w 3 � E 2� �,+ - ROSEMOUNT POLICE DEPARTMENT SPEED SURVEY LOCATION: %5..3'��' �i9�PTf�'�1rUC> �°�T�DATE/TTME: ,�=9-9s r�..sd - ,�,.�-- OFFICER: .�S�S^ SQUAD# �C] SPEED DIRECTION MISC. 2� � �g� 1.}/ zs- ,� z � � � � �� l � ZS � Z � - C� � Zl � � - ��c'E �a ' . ROSEMOUNT POLICE DEPARTMENT - SPEED SURVEY ' LOCATION: 153�°s-r. �,•3,-�- �a��t�N c� �&�ATE/TIlVIE: 5-q-`?S i��3 —t�3to OFFICER: �dn�-r�-,2,5 � 3St9 SQUAD# 5D SPEED DIRECTION MISC. 3a w � a� c � �-� 3 a w �, a� �.� a� c/B �c� � 8 �� / � a°� c � _ 3� W � 3� � � 33 t�� ROSEMOUNT POLICE DEPARTMENT SPEED SURVEY : ' LOCATION: �53�sr.w:�9'�A'I�,J�ELlN6 F�ATN DATE/TIlVIE: S-9-gs�� - t?3� OFFICER: w��.s �s�9 SQUAD# So SPEED DIRECTION MISC. 3� � � 3 3 � �� 3� �',�_ 3� �''�� 3� w l� � � 1� ��. +�l� a� E /� �o � l 8 �� .� s ac� � lg a� �/ 8 ROSEMOUNT POLICE DEPA.RTMENT SPEED SURVEY ' LOCATION: �53�'D sT,w d- DP�u�t�u�+� ��-;,.�DATE/TIlVIE: 5-9-gs ab�fs-aloo OFFICER: 1�J t�17�S �351� SQUAD# �0 SPEED DIRECTION MISC. a1 � � �� j � 3o E �3 3� � f B a s w /B a� � (� 33 � �� 3� � �B �� , 3a � 1� �- , a : MEMO _ � TO: LYLE KNUTSEN, POLICE CHIEF FROM: RON WASMUND, PUBLIC WORKS DiRECTOR �� QATE: JUNE 1 fi, 1993 RE: SPEED COMPlA1NT, 153RD STREET & DANBURY WAY Today I received a complaint from a representative of the Neighborhood Watch Committee of Wensmann's Rosewood Park. Their request was for signs indicating "Children at Play." Their concern is the perceived excessive speed of passing cars. They feel the majority of cars traveling this roadway are exceeding the speed limit. "Children at Play" signs are not effective in controlling speed. We studied this area last summer for warrants of a stop sign at 153rd Street and Danbury. Neither the traffic volumes nor the accident history warranted a stop sign. As further development occurs in this area which contributes additional traffic to the area we will again study the area. In the interim, I am asking your assistance in enforcement and data collection. I understand that when a squad isvisible it has an adverse effect on collection of true speeds, however the other effect may be to deter speeding by presence in the neighborhood. Ptease advise me if the squads can be in the area and of any data they collect. Please see me if you would like to discuss this at all. Thanks! cc: Sue Peterson, Neighborhood Watch Committee Steve Jilk, City Administrator Bud Osmundson, City Engineer , �,t„�� _�� (�.� �tc � �``��c'�� :�4� 0 � -�3 t�D�- S 7 ,��s�G 7`3- �'�'�.�� v� - ` ; -, . � . ' � ' . . _ . . . . ' • . ' � . . . . - r,�,�s- sa r..:. .�'�""��,f��.r^'•-�,�Li,?....cr��^-•.ri.�r . . . . � . . _ . `�s.H'��•�� +rW.�.:+y�;) M .•�{��^`"'*'�f�'�e " . . � .. . . . . . . . . . i:�swi'3Y'��+=� �.Jf:3i•._. .. . . . . . .. Unnecessary Signs . ' . � Obsolete and unnecessary signs confus�; � � and annoy drivers.They can give a false , sense of security and they can breed a • . disrespect for all signs.According to the . � Kentucky Transportation Center,perhaps � . the worst offender is the"Children at Play" � . sign.Local officials often face public j � pressiae to install these signs,and although i they have been posted in many cammuni- `ties,theze is no evidence that they prevent injurY or decrease the speed of vehicles. $,� 'r� � .� � � v� � . _ . . . �� . . . . . . '� .! r..�� . � . . .. . . • ". � Y '.� .r�. . t � . • ._ . .,..,� -r� �.,'.,��,. # - _ . . . . . . � .� . .p-': .-.n.P�aa. •Al..'.+�,".rs'^" -'... � } . . �-�.'x�''we� � . � "Children at PIay"signs can give parents and ch�ldren a false sense of s�uriry.Sinc� . nearly evezy residendal block has chiltlren living on i�there would have to be signs on each one.Blocics with no signs might imp�y that no children live there,sa it is a�ay to speed.Children could also misintezpres the signs to mean ic is acceptable to play in ttie S�L • For these reasons,federal sign standards discourage the use of"Children at Play" signs.Howevez,signs should and can be ' posred for school zones,pedestrian cross- ings,playgrounds,and other recreational areas.For more informadon on the proper use of signs,consult the Manual on Uniform Traffrc Control Devices(available � through ATSSA)(The Link,VoL 5,No.4, � Kentucky Transportauon Center). �; Y � : i�� o osemoun� PHONE (612)4234411 2875-145th Street West,Rosemount,Minnesota MAYOR FAX (612)423-5203 Mailing Address: Edward B,McMenomy P.O.Box 570,Rosemount,Minnesota 55068-0570 COUNCILMEMBERS Sheila Klassen James(Red)Staats June 16, 1993 Harry w��oX Dennis Wippermann ADMINISTRATOR Stephan Jilk Ms. Sue Peterson 4116 153rd St. W. Rosemount, MN 55068 Dear Ms. Peterson: Thank you for your phone call today informing me of your desire for the "Children at Play„ sign. The request, as 1 understand, stems from the desire to slow traffic traveling on neighborhood streets at excessive speeds. As I attempted to explain on the phone, "Children at Play" signs are not effective in controlling speed, I enclosed an article from the Kentucky Transportation Office for your information. These types of signs are advisory or warning signs and not regulatory so they are not enforceable. We have studied this area in the past year. We have made the determination that the warrants are not there for the installation of stop signs. As the area continues to develop and contribute additional traffic to the intersection of 153rd and Danbury, we will again examine the warrants. We will then install intersection control as is necessary. In the interim, I have given the Police Chief the enclosed memo asking for a higher presence in the neighborhood. They will be issuing citations and collecting data for our analysis. Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Sincerely, Ron Wasmund Public Works Director/Building Official cc: Steve Jilk, City Administrator Lyle Knutsen, Police Cfiief Bud Osmundson, City Engineer/Assistant Public Works Director C'�ver�l�ing's �oming �Ul� �osevnount// � . . � `=�NVGI80 W� � . . � ,:. �-Ir�. ' �� r � � � ,,, � » � � ��.._._ � ��- �t� � �I r �..� ,�s3�Fi�b�i�w 44rsr s :! '�l�d.�s ��,r �#� � 'fyr �i.�. .} y� �''1 r_tas'��!'sra ��e . . _ . . i9<�6.791 3�,J� .t7..'?�7F;1r.9'� �.L*:iAY w'i�. �.�v+i� ��.i�'Qi �8i��$.%'L"i'l�'-CiS7!!'��i.'...�"°'Li.�:l . . . . . �d� �.f e�. �i ilv��JL.�f{ N4N f�i�JU�va !�. 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