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I. Regular Meeting
Call to Order:
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission was held on Monday, March
20, 2017. Chair Kenninger called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. with Commissioners Freeman, VanderWiel, Clement,
and Henrie. Commissioners Forster and Mele were absent. Also in attendance were Community Development Director
Lindquist, Senior Planner Klatt, Planner Nemcek, Project Engineer Hatcher, and Recording Secretary Bodsberg.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
Additions to Agenda: None
Audience Input: None
Consent Agenda:
a. Approval of the February 28, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes.
b. Approval of the February 28, 2017 Work Session Meeting Minutes.
MOTION by Henrie.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 5. Nays: 0.
Public Hearing:
5.a. Request by Dakota County Community Development Agency for a Simple Plat and Planned Unit
Development Final Site and Building Plan for Prestwick Place Townhomes. (17-13-PUD and 17-14-FP)
Senior Planner Klatt gave a brief summary of the staff report.
Commissioner Clements questioned when the CDA purchased this property. Klatt confirmed that it was purchased in
2007. Clements inquired when were the Greystone & Prestwick developments approved. Klatt confirmed that it was
after 2007 when Greystone was platted. Community Development Director Lindquist stated that the 2007 Master PUD
Development Plan had laid out the entire Prestwick area.
Commissioner Clements inquired why staff is requesting to have Addison Street extended to the end of the property line
vs ending at the edge of the development. Klatt explained that when future development does happen then the road will
be ready and there will not be a gap in the road.
Commissioner Henrie inquired if the staff could address the residents’ concerns about property values near CDA
properties and potential police calls to the property. Klatt explained that staff has referenced a report done in 2014 that
stated that there is no evidence showing that this kind of development would impact the property values near the CDA
property. Klatt also stated that the Rosemount Police Department compared the Carbury Hills Townhomes vs a single-
family development and there were generally the same amount of police calls when removing vehicle calls relating to the
adjoining roadways.
Commissioner Henrie questioned that with the changes in the surrounding developments, would this kind of property
development still fit with the current developments. Klatt stated that the development still does fit into the plan because
the City has been planning for this project all along. Community Development Director Lindquist stated that the market
had prompted the original land use to change but that the comprehensive plan on the East side has not been modified.
Commissioner VanderWiel asked for clarification from staff as to what the Planning Commission should take into
consideration when they listen to residential comments. Klatt stated that the decision should be about the focus on the
site plan and zoning. VanderWiel inquired if the Commission has any dictation as to whether the property is high or
medium density. Klatt clarified that has already been decided and set within the Master PUD Development Plan.
VanderWiel asked if the Commission has any authority over whether the property is used for affordable housing or not.
Klatt stated that the Planning Commission cannot dictate if a development is used for certain types of housing.
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The public hearing opened at 7:33 pm.
Public Comments:
Kari Gill, CDA Deputy Executive Director of Housing Development, stated that the CDA believes that this is a good
site for this development because of its proximity to Dakota County Technical College and that there is a plan to have
Commercial properties along 42. There are usually multi-family properties used as a buffer between single family homes
and the commercial properties. It is expected that t he development would start either in the Spring or Summer of 2018,
and would last for about a year. The entire development would be constructed at one time. Ms. Gill explained the
process of obtaining tenants and how the rent is configured.
Chair Kenninger inquired as to what the lease terms are. Ms. Gill stated that the lease is for a one-year time. Kenninger
inquired if the occupancy at Carbury Hills Townhomes is full. Ms. Gill confirmed that is correct.
Commissioner Clement inquired what the background check consisted of. Ms. Gill stated that a criminal background
check is completed on all applicants 18 years and older and that they accept or deny an applicant based on those reports.
Clement inquired how many applicants are denied. Ms. Gill stated that she was uncertain but was able to find that out
and provide that information for the Commission.
Commissioner Henrie inquired if there was a maximum to how many people can occupy a unit. Ms. Gill stated that they
cannot occupy more than two people per bedroom.
Tom Raiolo, 13869 Addison Avenue, stated that people were not aware that this project was on the books when they
built their homes. Mr. Raiolo stated that Akron goes to gravel just north of 141st and he is concerned about the increased
amount of traffic. He thinks that the property values would be affected. Mr. Raiolo stated that the CDA property in
Eagan near the post office does not have an onsite manager. Mr. Raiolo would like to see more trees added to site plan.
He would like to know if there is any documentation on the police calls for Carbury Hills Townhomes. He thinks that
the congestion is going to be too great getting in and out of the development.
Shena Johnson, 1199 140th Street East, stated that she has concerns about the safety of her family.
Don Jach, 14084 Adrian Court, questioned if work force housing means that the CDA helps the family move them up
to the next step. He understands that people start in apartments and then move to purchase their first home. He would
also like clarification on if the property will be non-smoking.
Joe Musolf, 14054 Adrian Court, stated that the information given to them when he moved into their property was that
it was going to be medium density not that it was going to be work force housing. Mr. Musolf stated that if he would
have known the exact plan then he wouldn’t have purchased his home in Greystone. He questioned as to why the CDA
is choosing this spot for their development with all the single family homes surrounding the property. He feels that
along highway 3 or near a main bus route would be a better fit for this type of property.
Evan Ellis, 14099 Addison Avenue, inquired when there would be another entrance into this development. He stated
that the corner of 141st Street West and Akron Ave is already very populated.
Kelly Estepp, 1019 140th Street East, stated that there is one entrance into her development and she is concerned as to
the traffic that will occur.
Nicholas Goers, 14094 Adrian Court, questioned if this is the right location for this type of property. Mr. Goers stated
that he thinks a property near a bus route would be better. Had he known that this development was in the plan he
would not have moved here. Mr. Goers stated that he did do his due diligence before buying his property.
Raphel Rauer, 14064 Adrian Court, stated that a lot has happened in 10 years and changes have been made to the area.
Mr. Rauer feels like exceptions have been made for other developments and questions why can’t they be made for this
development.
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Katie Welch, 1219 140th Street East, stated that when she called the city she was told that it was going to be townhomes.
She would like to know why she wasn’t told about the fact that they would be rentals or low income. Ms. Welch is also
concerned about the fact that there are no jobs in that area of town and no bus route nearby.
Tom Raiolo, 13869 Addison Avenue, questioned why this development is paying cash in-lieu of having a park. Mr.
Raiolo also stated his concern for the high traffic on 141st Street West going in and out of the Greystone development.
Chair Kenninger requested that Ms. Gill explain what work force housing is. Ms. Gill stated that the residents that live in
this type of residence already have jobs. She also stated that the resident usually has a car and that the CDA has other
properties that are on a bus route. If the applicant didn’t have a vehicle they would apply for a property near a bus route.
Ms. Gill stated that this development will not be restricted to non-smoking.
Commissioner Clement inquired if the other developments are work force. Ms. Gill confirmed that they are work force.
Clement questioned the differences between the Eagan property to the Rosemount property. Ms. Gill stated that the
Eagan property is not restricted to just single mothers and anyone that joins the property are required to be added to the
lease and a background check will be completed. Clement questioned why the CDA purchased the land for the potential
apartments with no intentions on developing it. Ms. Gill stated that they purchased the land because of the proximity to
Dakota County Technical College and future commercial developments. At the time of the purchase they were unable to
subdivide the property because the easements are very limiting that run through that site. Clement inquired if the
property was already zoned for apartments when they purchased the property. Ms. Gill confirmed that it was already
zoned. She stated that the property was not purchased with the intent to be an investment property.
Don Jach, 14084 Adrian Court, inquired what the cost is for the project and what are the rules for eviction. Ms. Gill
stated that the cost will be about $160,000 per unit. An eviction will happen if they are not lease compliant.
MOTION by Clement to close the public hearing.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. Motion Passes.
The public hearing closed at 8:16 pm.
Additional Comments:
Senior Planner Klatt stated that according to the environmental study that was completed and the changes to the original
plan of this areas development; the level of traffic has actually gone down. Klatt stated that there will be two connections
when the development is finished. With the second phase of Greystone starting this year there will be a second
connection out to Bonaire Path to the north of the development. Klatt shared maps of different buffer proximities from
similar developments around Rosemount. Klatt stated that there is no evidence showing that housing values have gone
down in existing neighborhoods near similar developments.
Commissioner Freeman stated that she lives near the Carbury Hills Townhome development. She drives past and walks
with her family past the development and has never seen any issues with maintenance or crime.
Klatt stated that the developer proposed this project in this specific site because that is what the site was planned for.
The City has to plan for high-medium dense housing. The City is mandated by the Met Council to update the land use
plan every 10 years. The overall plan is the guiding plan and was last updated in 2007. The Land Use Plan maps are
available for anyone to see what the plan is for a specific area. The CDA has owned the property for a long time and
would have been the owners when Prestwick and Greystone were developed. The only thing that wasn’t advertised is
who owned the property, but that information is public knowledge and is available on the Da kota County website. Klatt
stated in response to the question about the requirement for a cash payment in -lieu of park land. The City has a master
park plan and if a park was not a part of that original plan then the City will request a cash payment in-lieu of park land.
That payment gets put into a park use fund for future park maintenance.
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Chair Kenninger questioned if the apartment property is sold what could come of that. Klatt stated that the city could go
through the process to update the plan and make that property be single family homes. But at the same time we need to
keep in mind on where we are placing high density homes. Kenninger inquired if the application meets the landscape
plan. Klatt stated that it does meet the requirements and what kind of trees are planted. Staff does request that there are
additional trees placed in the north of the property for additional buffering.
Commissioner VanderWiel inquired what kind of options the residents have to state their opinion on the
Comprehensive Plan and what the future plan will be for the apartment site. Klatt stated that there will be neighborhood
meetings and meetings with a public hearing so that the residents can voice their opinions. Residents can also write into
the Commission at any time. Community Development Director Lindquist stated that this also falls under the Master
Development Plan for this specific area that has been in place since 2007. We should be taking a look at the details of
this project and not the zoning and land use. This project is further in the process compared to projects proposed to the
Planning Commission in the past. Commissioner VanderWiel inquired about when should people be looking for notices
for the improvements on the Comprehensive Plan. Lindquist stated that the larger community meeting has already taken
place but the City will have upcoming meetings throughout the process. Residents can go to the Comprehensive Guide
Plan page on the City’s website and there will be a list of meetings and the pa cket agenda items that the Planning
Commission has been working on.
Chair Kenninger questioned if the data on what the police department gathered was available. Klatt stated that he
requested the call activity from the police station from Carbury and the Greystone neighborhood. Lindquist stated that
the comparison was 50 homes from Greystone to the 40 units in Carbury. They didn’t want to compare a large
neighborhood to a small neighborhood.
Commissioner Henrie stated that the access points into this dev elopment are potentially years away. There could be
major safety issues with this much traffic through a residential area. Lindquist stated that the other access out of
Greystone will be complete by the end of the Summer 2017. Henrie stated that he is stil l concerned about the aspect of
the travel patterns and the access point in and out of this development. He requested that an additional traffic study be
performed near this area.
Commissioner Clements inquired about any current commercial development in this area. Lindquist stated that there is
too much undeveloped land in that area to start developing commercial properties at this time. Clements inquired about
any inquiries on Industrial development. Lindquist stated that there have been several current inquiries but that nothing
is official as of yet.
Commissioner Henrie stated that he does not plan to support this plan until a traffic study has been completed. He is
concerned for the safety of the neighborhoods near this property.
Commissioner Clements stated that he thinks his hands are tied, he cannot not support the plan just because it is for low
income residents. He stated that he used to be low income and he is a good person. He didn’t find out until tonight that
Carbury was owned by the CDA. He stated that this property has been owned by the CDA since 2007, and it has been
zoned this way since 2007. The commission cannot tell a land owner how they can or cannot improve their property. If
they are meeting the current zoning requirements they cannot deny the application.
Chair Kenninger stated that the Planning Commission needs to enf orce the rules and they cannot discriminate against
how the land owner would like to use their land.
Commissioner Freeman stated that she agrees with Commissioner Clements comments. The land has been owned by
the CDA since 2007 and it shouldn’t come as a surprise as to who owns the property or what the land has been zoned
for.
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Commissioner VanderWiel stated that the Commissioners have a statutory obligation to follow the Land Use Plan and
zoning. Throughout this meeting the residents have been provided with options for the future and how future
development is completed.
Motion by Clements to recommend the City Council approve the Simple Plat and Planned Unit Development
Final Site and Building Plan for Prestwick Place Townhomes, subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with terms and conditions of 2007 Prestwick Place Master PUD Development
Agreement.
2. Conformance with all requirements of the City Engineer as detailed in the attached memorandum
dated March 16, 2017.
3. Conformance with all requirements of the Park and Recreation Director as detailed in the attached
memorandum dated March 15, 2017.
4. The final construction plans shall be revised to include the construction of Addison Street to the
eastern property boundary with Outlot L.
5. Dedication of 30 –foot of right-of-way or a roadway easement over Outlot N to accommodate the
construction of Addison Street.
6. The final plat shall incorporate all easements as required by City.
7. If required by Dakota County Plat Commission, the final plat shall dedicate an additional 20 feet for
the Akron Avenue right-of-way over Outlot A.
8. Park dedication in the form of cash in lieu of land for 40 residential units to be paid prior to issuance
of a building permit, in the amount in effect at the time based upon the Council adopted fee schedule.
9. The applicant modify the landscape plan to provide additional screening along the northern site
border.
10. Obtain a sign permit for the entrance monument sign that complies with the Sign Ordinance.
Second by Freeman.
Ayes: 4. Nays: 1, Henrie. Motion Passes.
Old Business: None.
New Business:
Community Development Director Lindquist stated that electronic packets would like to be an option for the
Commissioners. Planning Commission was in agreement that they liked the idea.
Commissioner Henrie questioned if there will be new commission members at the April meeting. Lindquist stated that
the City Council have been conducting interviews.
Klatt stated that there will be a Work Session on Tuesday, April 11th, 2017. The Land Use Plan will be the topic for the
Work Session.
Reports: None
Adjournment: There being no further business to come before this Commission, Chair Kenninger adjourned the
meeting at 8:59 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Stacy Bodsberg, Recording Secretary