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Home My WebLink About7.a. National Guard Armory Updatew err _ [I t )y ` 0 Y 3Y' iI(� i'RTS 14 111 I' W �l ROSEMOUNT, MtNN[:`,c1iA ti`r�16A 61? 113-4411 December 28, 1987 TO: Mayor Elect Hoke Councilmember Elect: Oxborough'% / d- Wippermann Councilmembers: Napper Walsh FROM: Stephan Jilk, Administrator/Clerk RE: National Guard Armory Update Attached is a report from Dean Johnson to me presenting a chronological report of contacts, meetings, etc. with the Minnesota National Guard since July of 1965 to the present. As you can see and may know, a serious effort was made over a period of two years to let the Guard know how much the city would like to see a facility (armory) located here. Until recently this effort was being supported by the city along with county and state officials. In late December, I met with Dick Dewey of Rosemount High School to discuss the serious concerns the school district has for their lack of gymnasium, ice skating and general use facilities and their desire to work with the city to develop a common use facility. Discussion on the armory facility came up. We decided a combined effort to "lure" the Guard in locating a facility was necessary and important. Mayor Elect Hoke has indicated to me that Senator Wegscheid and Representative Ozment have discussed this with him also. County Board Chairman Loeding has also.contacted me on the matter. Dean Johnson was directed and did initiate contact with the Guard through General John Cox and found that the Guard has committed to locating a facility in Inver Grove heights, but there could very easily be additional facilities in Dakota County. I have written General Cox (copy of letter enclosed) requesting that another meeting be held with him and his staff to allow the city and school district to reiterate_ our commitment and desire to have an armory here and to discuss locations and land contributions. I would ask that you review the information presented here. I will place this on the January 5 meeting agenda with hopes that the Council pass another resolution supporting the Guard's location of an armory here and pledging the city's cooperation. smj Attachments cc: Dean Johnson, Director of Community Development TO: OM6?ily of ,osemount Steve Jilk, City Administrator FROM: Dean Johnson, Director of Community Development DATE: December 24, 1987 SUBJ: National Guard Armory P.O. BOX 510 2875 -145TH ST. W. ROSEMOUNT, MINNESOTA 55088 612_ 423-4411 Attached is a chronology of our contacts with the Minnesota Army National Guard (MnARNG) in pursuit of an armory in Rosemount. Also attached are letters from the Adjutant General, Mayor Knutson, City Resolution in support of the armory, typical site plans for 60 -unit and 100 -unit armories and miscellaneous notes from my file. I am disappointed to learn of an apparent commitment by ARNG for a site in Inver Grove Heights. The level of interest and commitment exhibited by the City of Rosemount over the past two years should have warranted some sort of contact by the Guard in recent months. As the chronology might suggest, our contacts were usually met with explanationsof delay and lack of commitment. We seemed to have been assured that in spite of delays, our interest was well acknowledged. I certainly recognize that the Guard has their own criteria for site selection. We obviously have little control over their own preference from one site to the next. What concerns me is any impression that anyone may have that the City of Rosemount did not actively pursue an armory for the City. I do have criticism with Guard for not informing the City that the funding/timing issue had apparently been overcome. The absence of contact with the Guard the last eight months has obviously been a mistake. It is evident, now, I dropped the ball. That's hindsight. Looking back, however, with repeated contacts with Guard and requests to be kept informed, I feel the City was let clown by the Guard. At this point, I can only recommend that we renew formal contacts with the Guard. I spoke with General Cox, yesterday, and he welcomed another meeting with the City. I suggest that we request such a meeting and attempt to move forward on a positive note. With the interest expressed by the Rosemount School District, perhaps we can put an irresistible proposal before the Guard. Army National Guard (ARNG) Armory Chronology 7/22/85 The Adjutant General, .Tames G. Sieben, sent initial letter of inquiry (sent to other Dakota cities, as well). 8/7/85 Mayor Leland S. Knutson responded to General Sieben's letter, indicating unanimous City Council support to pursue development of an armory in Rosemount. 8/22/85 Written response from General Sieben that Colonel John Cox, Chief of Staff, would set up a meeting with the City. 9/?/85 A lunch meeting was held to discuss basic issues surrounding the ARNG's interest in an armory in Dakota County -- Attendees: General James Sieben, Adjutant General; Colonel John Cox, Chief of Staff; Chief Warrant Officer Tom Ryan -Comptroller; Tom Nesbitt, Armory Building Commission; Dennis Ozment, State Representative; Darril Wegscheid, State Senator; Lee Knutson, Mayor; Don Darling, City Administrator; Dean Johnson, Director of Planning & Building. 10/?/85 Another lunch meeting with the same general participants. The ARNG's interest in Rosemount seemed very evident -- central county location, City's interest and "cooperative" track 'record with other issues and agencies. Detailed discussions were held on the responsibilities of the host community, funding obligations and options for expanding the use of the facility at local expense. After the meeting, Don Darling and Dean Johnson took the ARNG personnel on a tour of potential sites. 11/5/85 City Council adopts Resolution 1985-57, unanimously encouraging ARNGto select Rosemount as its site for an armory and pledging its support and cooperation in the subsequent planning and siting effort. 12/16/85 Spoke with ,teff Connell, Director, Dakota County Planning and Program Management, about county's plans for jail, maintenance and administrative office plans. Also spoke with Justin Morritz, Dakota County Police Training Coordinator, regarding the need for a centrally located training facility, which would include classrooms, offices and a rifle range. Staff and elected officials from the City and county talked about the possibility of using Brockway as a "mega" facility. (This concept seemed legitimate after a seven month effort to bring a Tennessee flat glass company to Brockway failed). 12/30/85 A large gr i of people met at the Brockwaygant to evaluate the potential for multi -agency use of the site: National Guard storage/maintenance facility; State Fire Training facility; County Police Training facility; County Maintenance facility; school district transportation facility; City maintenance facility; and City park/golf course. Consensus seemed to be the facility may be oversized and require extraordinary costs for insulation and renovation. Attendees: General Sieben Colonel Cox CWO Ryan Dennis Ozment Steve Loeding Rod Boyd Gary Erickson Justin Morritz Lee Knutson Vern Napper Don Darling Red Staats Dean Johnson 1/?/86 Contacts with County staff didn't reveal any optimism in pursuing the "mega" facility. 20/86 Contact with General Sieben or Colonel Cox regarding our Brockway tour. Relocation of major guard activities didn't seem likely. Site not well suited for a normal armory -- prefer downtown area and more visibility. Funding for new armories still unresolved, appears to be two years away. 7/?/86 Contacted General Sieben to reiterate our interest -- informed him the new city hall was under construction in the downtown. General Sieben indicated funding was still an issue. He noted our interest was the most positive in the county and we were at "the top of the list." I requested that they keep us informed. 1/20/87 Tried to reach Colonel Cox and was informed he was General Cox now, Assistant Adjutant. Colonel Richard Hayes was the new Chief of Staff. Neither were available, but I spoke with General Sieben. i expressed concern about a newspaper article which seemed to suggest an armory was going to be built in Inver Grove Heights. He assured me that "no decisions have been made about an armory in Dakota County." lie indicated General Cox had only explained the requirements for an armory to the City, in response to their offer to lease an old school to the Guard. I informed him we had just moved into our new city hall and extended an invitation to visit. I reiterated our interest and commitment for an armory in Rosemount and asked that the Guard keep us informed. lie acknowledged our interest and indicated the Guard was still not ready to move forward. Don Darlinpontacted General Cox to inform S that Steve Jilk was the new city administrator and a new contact person. He informed him that we were still very committed to an armory in the City. This is the last contact with the Guard that can be verified by anyone at City Hall for the next several months. 12/23/87 I spoke with General Cox to express my disappointment that the Guard had apparently proceeded with discussions in IGH and not informed Rosemount that commitments by interested parties could finally be made.. 1 explained our formal commitment and contacts with the Guard over the years should have evidenced our continued interest. General Cox responded that they had also had contacts with Burnsville and Apple Valley. He further noted that Tom Nesbitt had just informed him that Dennis Ozment expressed interest on behalf of ISD 196 for an armory near the Rosemount High School. General Cox suggested the City request another meeting with ARNG. 1 concurred. 0 STATE OF MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AFFAIRS OFFICE OF THE ADJUTANT GENERAL VETERANS SERVICE BUILDING SAINT PAUL, MN 55155.2098 July 22, 1985 The Honorable Leland Knutson City Hall 1367 145th Street Rosemount, MN 55068 Dear Mayor Knutson: COPIED To COUNCIL JUL 2 .5 4a8 F, 4t, R.,nut o(I I would like to take this opportunity, as the Adjutant General of the State of Minnesota, to briefly discuss, the possibility of estab- lishing a Minnesota National Guard Armory in your community. In order to broaden our recruiting base and to provide for the future growth of our Minnesota Army National Guard we are looking to the suburbs for new locations. We believe that your community would be an ideal location for one of our units. I would appreciate it if you would discussthis possibility with your community leaders and let me know if we could provide more detailed information. At a later date we could meet with you for further discussion. I'm sure you would find that there are many benefits (not only financial) derived from a local National Guard unit in your area. Currently we have units in 69 communities located throughout the State- Hastings, Red Wing, Bloomington, Cottage Grove, and Northfield are all communities near you which presently have active National Guard units. Thank you for your consideration and I hope to hear from you in the near future. Sincerely, r James G. Sieben Majar'�6e eral, MN ARNG The Adjutant General COPIED TO: Administrator_r Building Dept. Fire Park & Rec. Pienning P(41ce August 7, 1985 01. V,oseni ou i to1-4f 14SIH �:l L R05EMC l Mtw'+ESpla °•FOEb 612-4234411 General James G. Sieben Department of Military Affairs Office of the Adjutant General Veterans Service Building St. Paul, MN 55125-2098 Dear General Sieben: In response to your letter of June 22, 1985, I would like to assure you that the City of Rosemount is indeed interested in obtaining more details on your proposal for a Minnesota National Guard Armory in our community. This was discussed briefly at our regular council meeting on August 6, 1985. The council is in unanimous agreement that more information is necessary and has asked me to make arrangements for the same. Don Darling, our City Administrator, may be contacted for arrangements to schedule a meeting. He may be called at 423-4411 from 7:30 a.m.-4:00 p.m., Monday through friday. Itis generally easier to reach him, and he in turn will contact me. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Leland S. Knutson Mayor smj STATE OF MINNESOTA ,J DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AFFAIRS .� OFFICE OF THE ADJUTANT GENERAL VETERANS SERVICE BUILDING RECEIVED SAINT PAUL, MN 55155.2098 G AUG 2s 1985 August 22, 1985 CLEWS OFFICE Y Of ROSEMOUNT The Honorable Leland Knutson City Hall 1367 145th Street Rosemount, Minnesota 55068 Dear Mayor Knutson: Thank you for your positive response to my inquiry regarding the possibility of an armory in your community.. We are in the process of refining and prioritizing our plans for armory construction and are close to being ready to discuss more detailed information with you. My Chief of Staff, Colonel John Cox, will be contacting your office in the very near future to set up a briefing to explain the procedures necessary to construct an armory in Rosemount. Sincerely, Jam Sieben Major General, MN ARNG The Adjutant General COPIED TO: Administrator Building Dept, Fire CUrItO TO COUNCIL Palk & Rec. AUG 2 6 1985 Picnning Policec`Kl`i<�c ur^ 110 PuNic Works _ Treasurer CITY OF ROSEMOUNT RESOLUTION 1985-57 A RESOLUTION PLEDGING SUPPORT TO THE MINNESOTA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD IN ESTABLISHING AN ARMY NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY IN THE CITY OF ROSEMOUNT, MINNESOTA WHEREAS, the Minnesota Army National Guard has expressed interest in establishing an armory in the City of Rosemount; and WHEREAS, officials of the Minnesota Army National Guard have met with City officials to discuss the general planning and funding requirements for an armory. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the City Council of the City of Rosemount unanimously encourages the Minnesota Army National Guard to select the City of Rosemount as the location of the armory and pledges its support and cooperation in the subsequent planning and siting effort. ADOPTED this 5th day of November, 1985. Leland S. Knutson, Mayor.. ATTEST: Z Dan . ar in"Cityer I /(� �Al(l � L-� " m6o,--� ro- zo ry� aj� L) L -e, 4-, C 14L78 ?-4 1Jx-sto A r 14 660 &CFO r Jj ce" 4,k -1 Aak &AAAAl" ?Via r i�d o t4 L-6ft EXAMPLES OF ITEMS IN EXCESS'OF CRITERIA TO BE SHARED EQUALLY BETWEEN STATE AND PARTICIPATING LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL UNIT(S) Trophy Case Electric Door Operators -Overhead Doors Floor Grid -Electrical Service Acoustical 7,000 SF if criteria is smaller Floor Striping and Finishing (Assembly Hall) Basketball Backstops Concrete Curbs (vicinity of Main Entrance) Room Finish Schedule (Alternates) Tinted Glass Slade Window Stools Date Stone Fire Extinguisher Cabinets Solid Core Wood Doors in lieu of Hollow Core Public Telephone Conduit/Outlet Wail -Hung Water Closets Oven (10 Burner in lieu of 6 Burner) Post Mounted Lighting at Main Entrance Waste Receptacles for garbage Mechanical Ventilation in Flammable Storage Site Preparation Rifle/Pistol Ranges Local Governmental Unit May Wish To Include .(Funded 100% Local] Athletic Anchor Devices Additional Kitchen Equipment . Additional Space for any functions Range Upgrading which exceeds criteria Tartan Turf, or equal, in Assembly Hall Other APPENDIX A ' Page I of 1 IL Y STREr-T ^� x S17 E_ i�"L/-\N r` L C c: " rr � f "• 'ro I'r' �o� ros l SOS ro. 103 I'll is FIRST FLOOR PLAN NOTE: Actual room areas are as shown. Major irregularities in the shave of rooms have been considered in the computation of room "areas" and accounts for discrepancies between "dimensions" and "areas". SCALE 1"0 45'•0' ST. PETER ARMORY JUNE 1941 SHEET 1 OF L No pooh 312E AREA 101 Vestibule 7'-8" x 14'-8" 112 102 Lobby Irregular 998 103 Office 16'-0" x 17'-4" 277 iO4 Office 10'-0" x 16'-0" 160 105 Learning Center 15'-4'" x 16'-0" 245 106 Library_15'-4" x 16'-0" 245 107 Training Aid Storage 7'4" x W-4" 83 108 womens 10'-4" x 15'-6" 149 10g Mens 8'-2" x 10'-4" 81 110 Locker 24'-0" x 28'-8" 688 1L Toilet Irr l r 211 112 Shower 7'-0" x 15'•0" 105 113 Unit Storage Irregular 729 114 Arms Vault 10'-0" x 12'-0" 120 115 Mechanical 16'-8" x 24'-0" 400 117 Ass mblHall Rifle Range 67'-4" x 100'-0" 6733 20'-0" x 115!-0" 2300 118 Corridor Irregular 152 119 Flammable Storage 9'-0" x 12'-0" 108 120 Facility Maintenance 12'-10" x 17'-0" 218 1H21 Food Storage 8'-4" x 12'-10" I07 122 kitchen irregular 426 123 Classroom 13'-8" x 28'-10" 394 124 Classroom 13'-8" x 28'-10" 394: NOTE: Actual room areas are as shown. 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', osemounl r 60) P(OL , "7`-i 7,6q -6 -ktL Au /�'R-tr l"BII'r,�,t4 � ,v' �- �► !tet'( �1 �`o 4%4C D &O -f L1o��C�. �% Tw.v� t��!(tf iM-��-.•. fs2`��- '��i��lth.. tom. 'L.�-•Q,. . ��,�/o� � �ti� � �eotQ�� .�r� ��,c ,�� ,�-7 ,w�en,,...��J/�� -r -�w_ sfi l� /a,�, _-P �t id a-a�s y 2 y, � � J � � `�" �T'�. LA - D2 1q, it -t, •�osernouni lyi(-)f General John Cox, Assistant Adjutant Minnesota Army Reserve National Guard Department of hilitary Affairs Veterans Service Building St. Paul, 1.114 55125-2098 .Dear General Cox: F11 ly. 2"M 4', III 1", f W nOSEMOON 1. MINNI .`;l1 I A Y4444 612 V3,1411 December 24, 1937 I would like to take this opportunity on behalf of the City of Rosemount and the Apple Valley -Rosemount Independent School District 196 to advise you and your staff that the interest and desire to have an armory located in the city is stronger than ever. As you are aware, the City of Rosemount's desire to have all armory here in our city goes back some time. ''Beginning in 1985 the city met with yourself, General Sieben and others to discuss the possibility, location of a facility and funding of expanded portions of such a facility for a local community. A resolution of support for and request of the Guard to locate a facility was adopted in 1985 by our city council and sent on to General Sieben. Another meeting was held in December of 1985 to discuss the possible use of the Brockway Glass Company building with General Sieben, yourself, state legislators and city officials present. The site was not determined to be well suited for all armory location. In the next twelve months, General Sieben was contacted several times by Mr. Johnson to reiterate the city's desire to work with the guard to locate an armory here. We were a bit dismayed in January of 1987 to read the article in the newspaper concerning the offer by the City of Inver Grove Heights to locate all armory in that city. When contacted by Hr. Johnson, General Sieben indicated to him that no decisions had been made, and he acknowledged the City of Rosemount's interest and said the guard was not ready to move forward with a new facility in Dakota County at that time. In February, 1987, Don Darling contacted you to introduce you to me as the new city administrator and reiterated the city's desire for all armory to be located here. Then yesterday, December 23, 1 was . advised 'by Mr. Johnson that the guard has committed to building a facility in Inver Grove Heights and that Apple Valley and Burnsville have discussed the -- same possibility with you. General John Co:: December 24, 1937 Page 2 As Mr. Johnson told you; we, the city, feel disappointed. We want an armory located here in Rosemount, and we only hope we are not too late to have another opportunity to convince the Guard that Rosemount is the "right place" for. the. next facility in Dakota County. You are also aware, from a telephone visit with Tom Nesbitt, that our Apple Valley -Rosemount School District is indicating a very strong desire to be involved in locating an armory here. I have met with school district representatives, and they have indicated that desire strong and clear. They wish to propose land dedication and financial involvement to facilitate other community/school district segments of such a facility. In order that we may discuss our continued interest and support and to present the school district's interest and overwhelming support to the MARNG to locate an armory here, I ask that you consider attending a meeting here in Rosemount to discuss the armory with us. Please contact me at 423-4411 so that we can arrange such a meeting. I can promise cooperation in meeting just about any date and time which fits your schedule. Thank you for your time and consideration, and I hole to hear from you soon. Sincerely, ted ian JFk Administrator/Clerk smj cc: General James Sieben payor Rollan Hoke City Councilmembers Senator Daryl Wegscheid Representative Dennis Ozment County Board Chairman Steve LoedinU City Treasurer Don Darling Rosemount high School Principal Dick Dewey o osemount Mr. Steven Loeding, Chairman Dakota County Board of Commissioners 3260 147th Street West Rosemount, MN 55068 RE: National Guard Armory Dear Steve: OROSEMOUNi. MINNI.'t()IA ',Milt W2 V3-4411 December 24, 1987 Please find enclosed two items for your information and review regarding the National Guard Armory discussion: (1) A letter dated 12-24-87 to General John Cox outlining the city's desire to meet with the MARNG to reiterate the city's position on the Armory and to present add- itional support from the Apple Valley/Rosemount School District. (2) A chronology of contacts, meetings, and notes from Dean Johnson and others in staff on this subject. I will appreciate your help in continuing support for the city's efforts in this and I will contact you with any further information as I hear it. Please accept my sincere hope that you will do the same. cc: Mayor -Elect, Rollan Hoke SJ/1j _ 9 f hSinc rely, tep an Jilk Administrator/Clerk , favrY C1--of-5.e,e CITY OF ROSEMOUNT __. RESOLUTION 1988- A RESOLUTION PLEDGING SUPPORT TO THE MINNESOTA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD IN ESTABLISHING AN ARMY NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY IN THE CITY OF ROSEMOUNT, MINNESOTA WHEREAS, the Minnesota Army National Guard has expressed interest in establishing an armory in the City of Rosemount; and WHEREAS, officials of the Minnesota Army National Guard have met with city officials to discuss the general planning and funding requirements for an armory; and WHEREAS, the Apple Valley -Rosemount School.District has also indicated strong interest in having an armory located in the City of Rosemount; and WHEREAS, the City of Rosemount and Independent School District 196 feel it would be extremely beneficial to Rosemount citizens in many ways for the Minnesota National Guard to continue its planning to locate an armory in the city. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the City Council of the City of Rosemount unanimously continues its encouragement to the Minnesota Army National Guard to select the City of Rosemount as the location of the armory and pledges its support and cooperation in the subsequent planning and siting effort. ADOPTED this 5th day of January, 1988. Rollan Hoke, Mayor ATTEST: Stephan Jilk, Administrator/Clerk