HomeMy WebLinkAbout19940124-12191994-Park and Rec CommissionPARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 24, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller,
Scott Rynerson, Deanna Simpson
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold Dir rviectorParksandRecreation; Rick Cook, Park Supe sor; Nancy
Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairperson, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 20, 1993, MINUTES:
MOTION by John Howard to accept the minutes of the December 20, 1993, meeting. SECOND by
Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
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I.RAAA UPDATE: Tom Nuemann was not available for this meeting, however, he dropped off
a memo to submit to the Parks and Recreation Committee. A copy of that memo will be
included with the minutes when they are sent out.
II.PARK EVALUATIONS/STAFF WORK (RICK COOK1: Nothing to report at this time.
III. SUMMARY OF WORK SHOP MEETING OF JANUARY 15, 1994: Postponed due to cold
weather.
IV. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SaUARE UPDATE: Deanna Simpson requested some updated
information on finances for Erickson Community Square. She also stated that Chuck Novak
is working on plans for the shelter and would like to have him present this information at the
next Erickson Community Square Meeting. However, to give Chuck some more time to work
on the plans she requested that the meeting be changed from February 9, 1994, to
February 23, 1994.
Deanna mentioned that the Garden Club purchased labeling material and has started making
plant labels for the community garden. She also stated that there is still a problem with
snowmobiles "cruising" through the garden. Dave Bechtold commented that he had talked to
the Police Chief about snowmobile complaints. The Police Chief stated that if there are
concems or complaints, that the people should contact his office.
Dave Bechtold will sending a personal invite to Kevin Lipps for attending the meeting. He is
the manager of the John Deere business (Corcoran Propertyl.
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V. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho, Chairperson of Carrolis Woods Committee gave
an update. Due to the cancellation of the walk-through which had been scheduled for
Saturday, January 15, 1994, Mike requested that a new date be set for a walk-through. The
dates given to the Parks and Recreation Committee were February 12, 1994, or
February 26, 1994. It was decided that Saturday, February 26, 1994, at 1 p.m. would work
best.
Carrolls Woods has requested that a new set of maps be designed to show all the trails.
Buckthorn is being scheduled to be cut again sometime in March. The exact date will be set
at the next Carrolls Woods Committee meeting.
The Carrolls Woods Committee is requesting feedback from the Parks and Recreation
Committee as to what would be appropriate for the entrance in to the park. Mike Busho
recommended that this be discussed at the walk-through.
VI. WENSMANN 6TH ADDITION: A map showing the open space for a linear park and another
for play was provided to the Parks and Recreation Committee. Mr. Terry Wensmann was
present to answer questions. Mr. Wensmann stated that the open space would be a 1/2 acre
linear park with the narrowest point being 30 feet wide.
Dave Bechtold discussed the park area to be used for p ay. It is approximately 90' wide x 135'
long, plus land to be added on in the future developments to the west of this site.
There was a great deal of discussion relating to the linear park and the trail next to the homes
that was included with that linear park. Items discussed included the maintenance of the site,
the location of the trail next to the homes, the design of the site, and whether it shoutd be a
public or private amenity of the development.
Terry Wensmann stated he was agreeable to a proposal that would give them credit fo a 1/2
acre of park dedication with the amount of that credit to be used towards landscaping, trees,
tables, and benches for that 1/2 acre area.
Wensmann will hold another Citizen's Meeting for input from the residents next to the project.
Deanna Simpson had concerns regarding lighting along the trail, etc. If there is to be a trail,
lighting should be considered.
Dave stated that the idea was to divide the townhomes up by having an open space.
Mr. Wensmann stated that where the open space is located on the map divides the different
styles of townhomes. He felt the location of the new park site was more in the center of the
total development when this portion and the next portion of the projects are built. He stated
that future park land would become available in the next step of development.
Tom Reller stated that he thought the trail might be too close to the townhomes and the
townhome owners might have a problem with that.
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Dave Bechtold suggested that the open space have no path.
Deanna asked Mr. Wensmann if the Parks and Recreation Committee could have input on the
landscaping or if something on that line could be worked out. Mr. Wensmann agreed.
Mr. Wensmann also stated that he would prefer an open space with landscaping and no trail.
Scott Rynerson stated that 30 feet is not what he had in mind for an open space and that if
is important for the location of the park to be in the most populated area. The Parks and
Recreation Committee should be giving consideration and planning for what is in writing now,
not what might be coming in the future.
MOTION by Deanna Simpson with a second by John Howard to take 1/3 acre with the
stipulation that the future development will include a park dedication of a minimum of 1 1/2
acres to the west of that site. The 1/2 acre of dedication of the outlot to be given as credit
to be used for the development of that outlot including landscaping. The remaining dedication
to be taken as cash. This is to include three 13) tables and two (2) benches in the 1/2 acre
site. Ayes: 6 Nays: 1. MOTION CARRIED.
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I. KIOSK DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION: Students from the Architectural Technology
Department at Dakota County Technical College dropped off their Kiosk Design Drawings for
the Dakota County Bikeways. The Kiosk would be located at Chippendale and County
Road 42.
The students would like Dave Bechtold and the Parks and Recreation Committee to decide on
the drawings and concepts.
Dave recommended that the students come to the next Parks and Recreation Committee
meeting and give a presentation. Linda Ladzun agreed that this is a good idea. Dave also
stated that Bud Osmundson is checking on the lease agreement for the property located at
Chippendale and County Road 42 to make sure this Kiosk use would be allowed.
Dave stated that the county will pay for constructiort of the project and that the city will
maintain it.
Dave stated that he would write a letter to the students to ask them to attend the next
meeting and give a presentation on their ideas.
Linda Ladzun also suggested that maybe the students could come up with ideas for the Carrolls
Woods entrance. Mike Busho said that was fine. Dave Bechtold said that this would be
something to ask the students at the next committee meeting.
II.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
JERRY PUCIATY - None.
LINDA LADZUN - None.
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JOHN HOWARD asked Dave Bechtold to give an update on Erickson Community Square
meeting with the Guard. Dave said that he, Jim Koslowski and Rick Cook met with
Major Glass and First Sergeant Theide and that they in tum needed to meet with he
engineering and planning portion of the Guard out of Willmar to discuss the project further.
John noted that this is Scott's and Deanna's last meeting,and thanked them for their service
on the committee.
SCOTT RYNERSON said he enjoyed being a member and that he will always be active in what
happens in the community. He thanked Dave and his staff for the good job they are doing.
DEANNA SIMPSON said she has served for 9 years and has really enjoyed working with the
committees and the staff. "Dave and his crew always were ready to help out and get projects
completed." She also noted that she will still be on the Carrolls Woods and Erickson
Community Square Committees.
TOM RELLER asked if the Jaycee Park shelter can have a sign posted stating the hours that
it is open. Also he said that there is some graffiti on the bathroom doors.
Discussed city ordinances on parks and if the criteria can be changed. Kathy Busho from the
Planning Commission stated the Director should look in to the situation for parks and non-park
open space in developments.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty with a second by Deanna Simpson to direct Dave Bechtold to look
in to an ordinance concerning non-park open space as it relates to development.
Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTIONED CARRIED.
At the next meeting, Dave will report back what progress has been made with this item.
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
DAVE BECHTOLD thanked Scott and Deanna for serving on the committee and stated that the
Parks and Recreation staff have enjoyed working with them over the years.
At the next meeting, we will be swearing in the new members. Also, some agenda items will
be Park Ordinances, By-Laws and election of new officers.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting. Deanna Simpson SECONDED the
motion. Meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully Submitted
Nancy L. Sch upp
Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 21, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,
Jerry Puciaty
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Parks & Recreation and Community Centsr Director, Lisa Jost,
Recreation and Community Center Manager; Lacelle Cordes, Parks and Recreation Programmer; Nancy
Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Reller
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 17, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Jeff Moser to accept the minutes of the October 17, 1994, meeting. SECOND by Mike
Eliason. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
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I.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike commented
that the southwest trail has been cut and limerock is in place. Also, the new section that runs
along the ridge has been completed. Mike commented that in the spring more limerock will be
needed and the trails will need to be trimmed down in areas to maintain the 8 foot width.
The sub-committee discussed opening the deer trail that is on the west side of Carrolls Woods,
near Schwarz Pond. This trail would head south into the woods and would be a wood chip
traiL
Signage for Carrolls Woods' three main entrances was discussed as well as the possibility of
small signage in the woods where trails cross each other to direct people through the woods.
Mike Busho commented that the cub scouts cleaned up the woods before and after the Haunted
Woods program.
The sub-committee discussed the possibility of having a "major" clean-up of the woods. There
is some old fencing and concrete blocks that need to be removed. Mike commented that the
sub-committee is looking for the assistance of city staff on this.
Mike commented that Carrolls Woods will be open for cross country skiing this year. The City
of Lakeville will assist with the grooming of the trails.
Buckthorn cutting was completed on Saturday, November 19, 1994. There were 1 1 volunteers
assisting city staff. Mike commented that buckthorn cutting is on hold now until next spring.
Mike commented that reinforestation of the abandoned trail, which is the south trail, will not
be done at this time, however the trail will be closed off.
Mike commented that the Haunted Woods program had an attendance of approximately 1400
people. This is down from last year.
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Dave Giliuson asked if there wiil be signage at the entrances listing the rules and what is not
allowed in the park, such as bikes. Mike commented that the rules and regulations will be
posted. Jim Topitzhofer commented that the signage for the three main entrances may possibly
be done this fall.
Dave Giliuson recommended that the Carrolls Woods Sub-committee, at the next meeting,
discuss which trails will be used and which will be closed off. Dave recommended that a new
map be developed showing this information.
II.ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE: Jeff Moser commented that sub-committee members have
selected divisions of the project to manage. Construction is scheduled to start next spring.
Also, a local engineering firm has been hired to work on the mechanical and structural aspect
of the project.
The sub-committee briefly discussed constructing an additional covered picnic area.
III. RAAA UPDATE: RAAA representatives were not present at the meeting. However, the RAAA
1994 Participant and Age Statistics was in the Parks and Recreation Committee's packet.
IV. SUB-COMMITTEE SELECTION POLICY: Jim Topitzhofer submitted, as part the packet
information, a draft copy of the policy of the Parks and Recreation Sub-Committee Policy for
the Parks and Recreation Committee's review. Discussions were held and minor changes
recommended. Dave Giliuson requested Jim Topitzhofer to make changes and send out a final
format of the policy to the Parks and Recreation Committee members as well as to the sub-
committee chairpersons. The Parks and Recreation Committee will vote on the policy at the
next regular meeting.
V. SHANNON MEADOWS ADDITION: Jim Topitzhofer gave an overview of the Shannon
Meadows Addition, also known as the Strese/Burkalter property. Jim commented that the
developers have changed their plans. They are now proposing greater density, 43 dwellings
in this 12.84 acre parcel or 3.35 dwelling per acre.
Mike Eliason asked if the plans have changed does the Parks and Recreation Committee have
the opportunity make changes as well? Lacelle Cordes commented that as long as the
developer has made concept changes then the Parks and Recreation Committee has the
opportunity to make changes.
VI. CMC UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer updated committee members on the CMC Development. CMC
has started their proposed development project located north of County Road 42 and west of
Biscayne Avenu. They have begun grading the south portion of the development, below the
railroad spur.""Jim commented that the property where the railroad spur is located is one of the
many issues yet to be resolved before the final plat is approved by City CounciL
VII. WENSMANN 7TH ADDITION: Jim Topitzhofer commented that at the last regular meeting,the
Parks and Recreation Committee rejected Wensmann 7th Addition proposal and passed a
motion to accept the full 3.84 acres of land dedication, specifying this land to be connected to
the existing park in Wensmann 6th Addition. Jim forwarded this response to Wensmann
Builders and the planning staff. The project is now on hold and alternatives are being
considered.
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I. KELLY TRUST PROPERTY: Jim Topitzhofer gave an update on the Kelly Trust Property that is
now available for sale. Jim commented that two outdoor recreation grant proposals were sent
to the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) in May, 1994. One is for the acquisition of
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property just north of Carrolls Woods and the other for the acquisition of land located on the
north side of Birger Pond. Both acquisitions are located within the Kelly Trust Property. Jim
commented that a response from the DNR is expected in February. The acquisition attached
to Carrolls Woods is 19 acres and the Birger Pond acquisition is approximately 20 acres.
Jim commented that he has expressed the Parks and Recreation's desire to pursue these two
park land acquisitions to the Planning Commission and the planning staff.
II.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
JERRY PUCIATY asked about the progress to change the By-Laws. Jim Topitzhofer commented
that issue has not been addressed by the City Council yet.
LINDA LADZUN expressed disappointment that current Parks and Recreation Committee
members will have to re-apply for the committee. Jim commented that he recommended only
the merger of the Parks and Recreation Committee and the Community Center Commission, and
that the new committee be a seven member committee. The City Council recommended and
approved decision for present members to have to re-apply.
JOHN HOWARD disagreed with the land dedication and cash dedication formulas. Jim
Topitzhofer recommended that this issue to re-addressed at the next Parks and Recreation
Committee Workshop.
DAVE GILIUSON asked about outdoor ice skating lessons. Lisa Jost commented that we will
be offering lessons on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday with lessons beginning December 10,
1994. This information will appear in the Winter Brochure.
Dave commented that the next Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop meeting will be held
on December 1, 1994, at 7:30 p.m. The topic of discussion will be park dedication formulas.
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Jim commented that the weekly reports are attached as part of the
packet for the Director's Report. Jim commented on few items. Wendy Willman resigned from
the Parks and Recreation Department. The city has been accepting applications for the
programmer position. Jim hopes to have someone hired by the first of next year.
December 4, 1994, is the Share the Spirit of a Rosemount Holiday Celebration. There will be
many events going on at the Community Center as well as a tree lighting ceremony.
Jim also commented that the Community Center Commission had their last meeting this month.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 p.m. SECOND by John
Howard. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 17, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reiler
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Parks & Recreation and Community Center Director; Rick Cook,
Buildings and Grounds Supervisor; Lisa Jost, Recreation and Community Center Manager;
Lacelle Cordes,Parks and Recreation Programmer; Nancy Schrupp,Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Howard
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:33 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: Under New Business add in as Roman Numeral IV, Outdoor Ice Skating
Lessons and Roman Numeral V, Jaycee Park New South Parking Lot. Chairperson's Report is Roman
Numeral VI, Director's Report will become Roman Numeral VII and Adjournment will become Roman
Numeral VIII.
APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 19, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Tom Reller to accept the minutes of the September 19, 1994. SECOND by Mike Eliason.
Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
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I.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike explained that
the Carrolls Woods Sub-committee had received a question from a resident on the deer trail on
the north side of Carrolls Woods. The resident commented that the Master Plan shows that it
is asphalt. Mike commented that the Sub-committee does not have any plans to put in the
asphalt at this time.
Mike commented that the Sub-committee discussed new trails and abandoned trails. The Sub-
committee discussed the possibility of signage throughout the woods to direct people in and
around the woods.
Mike commented that Bud Osmundson, Public Works Director, was present to discuss the
culvert.
Mike explained that a resident requested an inventory of trees that were removed for the trail.
Mike commented that there will be a re-inforestation plan to replace some of the trees.
Mike commented that the Carrolls Woods Sub-committee made a motion to not allow bikes in
the woods and discussions were held on possibly grooming trails for cross country skiing.
Mike commented that the next buckthorn removal project will be held on November 19, 1994,
from 9 am to Noon. Volunteers would be appreciated.
Linda Ladzun commented that she received a call from a resident questioning if lighting along
the trails would be installed. Mike commented that there are no plans for this type of lighting
and that by lighting the trails it would take away from the passive recreation use.
Mike commented that membership criteria will be discussed at the next meeting. Dave Giliuson
requested that this issue be addressed and would like to receive something in writing on it for
discussions at the next Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting to be held on November 3,
1994, at 7:30 p.m.
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II.ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer handed out the latest plan to the
Parks and Recreation Committee. This plan is to be presented to the City Council at the
October 18, 1994, meeting. Jim commented that the initial grading has been completed and
that this was done at no cost as it was part of the 145th Street project.
The next meeting is scheduled for November 3, 1994, at 6 p.m. This meeting will precede the
Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop.
III. PARK DEDICATION POLICY: Jim gave an overview of the discussions held at the Parks and
Recreation Committee Workshop meeting regarding Park Dedication. Jim commented that there
had been some confusion regarding the calculation for park dedication. Jim provided in the
packet,for the Parks and Recreation Committee,the formulas used to calculate park dedication.
Jim commented that he had done a comparison study with the neighboring cities and
recommended an increase for the park dedication formula from 514,000 to 515,000 per acre.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to recommend City Council to authorize an increase in the residential
land value for the park dedication formula from $14,000 to 515,000 per acre, effective
January 'I, 1995. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
IV. WENSMANN 7TH ADDITION: Jim Topitzhofer commented that this was the main topic at the
October 6, 1994, Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop. The Committee had voiced
disapproval over the revised plat, which had proposed a park adjacent to County Road 42. The
Parks and Recreation Committee requested the Planning Commission to consider placing
townhomes between the highway and the park for safety reasons. The Planning Commission
accommodated this request by revising the plat. However,the Parks and Recreation Committee
felt that the revised park is not large enough to have play equipment on it. Jim commented
that at the Workshop meeting the Parks and Recreation Committee had made a motion to
request removal of the southeast quad units in Wensmann 7th Addition and accept the total
area as land dedication, and if removal of the quad units is not acceptable, total park dedication
be accepted in the form of cash.
Jim commented on the possibility of accepting a one (1) acre park with a small playground and
would like to the Parks and Recreation Committee to re-evaluate the issue.
Dave Giliuson commented that some land is better than none and that the motion made at the
Workshop meeting is not acceptable.
Discussions were held on the size and shape presented in the plat and according to the park
dedication ar d siz of the land development, the Parks and Recreation Committee is entitled
to approximately three (3) to four (4) acres.
Mike Eliason asked what type of playground equipment would be installed. Lacelle Cordes
commented that it would be similar to that at Connemara Park.
The Parks and Recreation Committee agreed to request the full amount of acreage that is
entitled, which is calculated at 3.84 acres. A comment was made that the Parks and
Recreation Committee had accepted less land in the previous phase for Wensmann.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to accept the full 3.84 acres in the Wensmann 7th Addition and the
land shall be connected to the existing park in the Wensmann 6th Addition. SECOND by Jerry
Puciaty. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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I.COPE ADDITION: Jim commented that the owner of the Cope Building on Highway 3, south
of Fluegel Supply, is seeking approval on improvements and that Mr. Cope has already
improved the exterior of the building. Jim commented that additional improvements include
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curbed driveways and front parking lot with some landscaping. Jim recommended accepting
a cash dedication in the amount of 5770.
MOTION by Tom Reller to recommend City Council to accept cash dedication in the amount of
5770 for the Cope Addition. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
II.BETTY JOE'S DANCE STUDIO: Jim commented that Betty Joe's Dance Studio is relocating to
Burma Avenue, south of 145th Street and that the new plat is .57 acres. Jim recommended
the Parks and Recreation Committee accept cash dedication in the amount of 5627.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to recommend City Council to accept the cash dedication in the
amount of $627 for Betty Joe's Dance Studio. SECOND by Jeff Moser.
Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
III. REX'S RICH VALLEY ESTATES: Jim commented that this proposed development is located
south of County Road 42, east of Highway 52 and that the plan calls for a culdesac with a
south bound easement for future road expansion. Jim commented that the total area of the site
is 12.5 acres, consisting of five 2.5 acre lots. Jim recommended that the Parks and Recreation
Committee accept cash dedication in the amount of S2,800.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to recommend City Council to accept cash dedication in the amount
of $2,800 for Rex's Rich Valley Estates. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0.
MOTION CARRIED.
IV. OUTDOOR ICE SKATING LESSONS: Lisa Jost, Recreation and Community Center Manager,
was present to discuss outdoor ice skating issues. Lisa commented that the Parks and
Recreation staff has been discussing the idea of offering outdoor ice skating lessons this year.
Lisa stated that this program was not offered last year.
Lisa commented that outdoor skating lessons would possibly be offered on Mondays,Tuesdays
or Thursdays and that the sessions would run six (6) weeks with the sixth week being
considered the make-up week due to weather cancellations.
Lisa also commented that the Jump and Spin Skating School is offering fall, winter and spring
sessions with classes held on Saturdays at the Rosemount Arena and the sessions are priced
at 575, 565 and 555 consecutively.
Lisa commented that she wanted to open this issue up to the Parks and Recreation Committee
for discussion.
Dave Giliuson strongly recommended having the outdoor skating lessons and he commented
that the kids seemed to have fun.
The Parks and Recreation Committee agreed that they would like to see outdoor skating
continue. Lisa Jost commented that she will begin advertising for instructors and work on
getting the program going.
V. JAYCEE PARK SOUTH PARKING LOT: Bud Osmundson, Buildings and Grounds Director/City
Engineer presented the issue of the parking lot being installed along with the needed sewer lines
and that the cost is approximately 554,000. Bud commented that he had received price quotes
and that they are rather high and he is looking at other options. Bud asked the Parks and
Recreation Committee if they would like this parking lot installed now and if not, he would like
to go ahead with the storm sewer line portion of the project, which would cost approximately
517,000 to $18,000. Bud explained that water is "pooling" in this area and residents near
there are concerned about getting water in their basement.
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Discussions were held on the necessity of this parking lot at this time. The Parks and
Recreation Committee felt that it is not needed at this time. However, Dave Giliuson
commented that the storm sewer should be put in and would like see the area be graded, install
a limerock trail and make the area look presentable by possibly seeding or putting in sod where
the parking lot is supposed to be.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to install the storm sewer in Jaycee Park, South Parking Lot and
have minimal grading, seeding, and install limerock to make the area look presentable and
reserve judgement on the parking lot for a later date. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 6
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
VI. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
JERRY PUCIATY: None.
JEFF MOSER: None.
LINDA LADZUN commented that the Community Center Commission is reviewing policies nd
going over fees. Linda asked if someone from the Parks and Recreation Commi'ttee was .
attending the_Rosemount Activities Programs 1RAP) meetings. Jim commented that Jerry
Puciaty is on the list. Jerry commented that he has not been able to attend and if anyone else
is interested they are.more than welcome to take his place.
MIKE ELIASON commented on the future athletic complex and would like to see that the
committee and staff keep it in mind for future discussion.
TOM RELLER complemented the Buildings and Grounds staff on doing a great job of putting in
the trail without damaging beneficial trees.
Tom asked if the Parks and Recreation Department has considered holding the Haunted Woods
on a different day. Lacelle Cordes commented that the staff and the Halloween Committee
have discussed this, however, it would defeat the purpose of the Haunted Woods Program,
which is to offer a safe alternative to trick or treating.
DAVE GILIUSON commented that motions made at the Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting
should be brought back to the Parks and Recreation Committee Regular meeting for official
approval.
VII. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Jim Topitizhofer commented that the second RAP Grant was turned in
on Monday, October 17, 1994 and that he is also working on another grant with the School
Di°strict which is to be completed and sent in December.
Jim commented that we a e still looking for volunteers for Halloween and encouraged the Parks
and Recreation Committee members to participate.
Jim informed the Parks and Recreation Committee that Randy Moe, Arena Manager resigned.
Randy's last day was Monday, October 17, 1994.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. SECOND by Mike
Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMI7TEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETfNG OF SEPTEMBER 19, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Parks & Recreation and Community Center Director, Rick Cook,
Buildings and Grounds Supervisor; Lacelle Cordes, Parks and Recreation Programmer, Nancy Schrupp,
Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dave Giliuson, John Howard
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Linda Ladzun, Vice Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 15, 1994, MINUTES: Five comments made by Jerry Puciaty on Carrolls
Woods issues will be added to the minutes under Old Business, Roman Numeral II — Carrolfs Woods
Update, Paragraph Four.
MOTION by Tom Reller to accept the minutes of the August 15, 1994, with Jerry Puciaty's comments
added. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
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I. MERGER OF PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE AND COMMUNITY CENTER
COMMISSION: Jim Topitzhofer commented that further discussions on the merger were held
at the workshop meeting for the Parks and Recreation Committee members. At the workshop,
Jerry Puciaty suggested to formally decide on the issue at the next Parks and Recreation
Committee meeting. Jim suggested a format of two meetings per month, with the second
meeting concentrating on development issues only.
Jim requested the committee members to consider the following proposal to the City Council.
Combine the Parks and Recreation Committee with the Community Center Commission,
to be entitled "Parks and Recreation Committee", and that the City Council determine
the size of the newly formed Parks and Recreation Committee and the date of the
merger in the near future.
Linda Ladzun expressed her feelings regarding the Workshop meeting and does not want to see
that dropped. She questioned if that would mean three meetings per month.
Mike Eliason agreed with Linda in the sense that he does not want to see the Workshop
dropped. Mike stated that being this is his first year on the committee, he has found that the
Workshops have been very informative and that it takes time to learn the information to be able
to make good decisions.
Jerry Puciaty suggested the possibility of setting aside time at the second meeting, either at
the beginning or end, to hold a workshop and allow one hour for it.
Tom Reller commented that he likes the idea of the sub-committee meetings preceding the
Parks and Recreation Committee meetings and would be in favor of the merger.
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Further discussions were held on the number of inembers that this combined Committee would
have. Jim Topitzhofer commented that he feels that he should not be the one to recommend
the number of inembers or who those members should be. Jim feels those decisions should
be left up to the City Council.
Jerry Puciaty stated that a plan needs to be in place on how to handle the changes that will
occur if the merger takes place, such as if the number of inembers change then the By-Laws
will need to be changed.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to merge the Parks and Recreation Cammittee and Community Center
Commission,retain seven members on the committee and retain Carrolls Woods Sub-Committee
and Erickson Community Square Sub-Committee. SECOND by Jeff Moser. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0.
MOTION CARRfED.
II.REQUEST FROM RAAA REGARDING FENCE EXTENSION AT JAYCEE PARK: Jim Topitzhofer
gave an overview on the requested completion of the fence line on the north side of the
baseball field at Jaycee Park with the cost to be funded by RAAA. Lacelle Cordes contacted
representatives from the Outdoor Recreation Grant to determine if the fence could be installed
without detracting from the intent of the grant and was given the go ahead by the grant
administrators.
Tom Neumann was present to give an update. Tom commented that the annual meeting is
coming up in October and that he has still not seen many Rosemount residents attending the
meetings. Tom commented that with Independent School District 196 building a new high
school in the future, that could greatly effect RAAA by getting new boundaries. Tom stated
that all of the board members are Apple Valley residents and in the last five or six years there
has been no representation from Rosemount and suggested that residents of Rosemount
seriously consider getting on the RAAA Board,
RAAA meetings are held at the Rosemount Community Center on the second Monday of each
month from 6:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. However, Tom commented that RAAA does not meet in July
and tries not to meet in August do to the amount of activities during this time.
MOTION by Mike Eliason to accept RAAA's donation for the installation of an eight foot chain .
link fence on the north side of the baseball field at Jaycee Park. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty.
Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOT10N CARRIED.
111. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jeff Moser commented that Wayne Lindell is
volunteering his time as the "unofficial" construction manager to assist with the building plans
and structure. Wayne suggested that each of the Erickson ;omrr,,nity Square Sub-Committee
members should sel.ect a division of the construction to manage.
Jeff commented that the sub-committee is still searching for a structural engineer and a
mechanical engineer
Jim Topitzhofer commented that the historical Baptist church on Cameo is looking to relocate
in the area near the veterinary clinic and Park & Ride area. The church is suggested to be used
as an information center.
IV. CARROLLS WOODS: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike commented that
residents are concerned about Carrolls Woods users parking near the southwest entrance. Mike
stated that the designated parking areas will be at the Senior High and Schwarz Park and that
a sign will be placed at the southwest entrance indicating the parking areas.
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Mike commented that the first 100 feet of trail is installed and that landscaping is complete.
Mike complimented Deanna Simpson and the Garden Club for doing such an exceHent job.
Mike stated that construction of the rest of the trail wi(I begin the first part of October.
Mike commented that the sub-committee made a motion prohibiting the use of horses in
Carrolls Woods. The use of bikes will be further discussed. A resident's issues concemingCarrollsWoodswereaddressedbythesub-committee. Mike commented that this person's
issues pertained to:
A Topographical Map of Carrolls Woods. A map has been made available at this time.
Trail variance. The trail variance has been approved by the state.
Removal of dead logs over trails. Dead logs are cut up and stecked in the woods. It
is left in the woods to provide refuge for the smatler wildlife animals.
Use of lime rock on trails. Use of lime rock is acceptable and the PH change to the
content of the soil is minimal.
Trail width. The trail width is six feet with a one foot buffer on each side.
Mike commented that a formal written request from a Ron Jacobson to join the sub-committee
was received. The sub-committee would like to hold off on the request until some type of
criteria for the sub-committee is established such as the number of inembers, length of term,
etc. A motion was made by the sub-committee to request the Parks and Recreation Committee
to come up with the criteria.
Jerry Puciaty stated that he fully supports the sub-committee and requested that the sub-
committee members come up with suggestions on the criteria for the Parks and Recreation
Committee to discuss, refine and put together. Mike commented that the sub-committee would
like to re-assess where they are at first. Jerry also commented that the Carrolls Woods Sub-
committee had an open member policy when it was first developed. Mike stated that the sub-
committee is not trying to exclude anyone but that they need a plan as to how they need to
operate.
Discussions were held in regard to a citizen's concerns that were to be presented at the CityCouncilmeetingonTuesday, September 20, 1994. Deanna Simpson, Carrolls Woods Sub-
Committee member requested the support of the Parks and Recreation Gommittee members at
this meeting. Linda Ladzun commented that she feels the sub-committee is doing a fine job and
on behalf of the Parks and Recreation Committee members stated that they do fully support the
Carrolls Woods Sub-committee.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty that the Parks and Recreation Committee fully supports Carrolls
Woods Sub-committee members, its work and its plans in the interest to move ahead. SECOND
by Tom Reller. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Mike Busho commented that articles relating to Carroll Woods work had been published in the
Rosemount Town Pages. However, the sub-committee will be publishing future articles in the
Thisweek Newspaper, which is more widely received.
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I.SLIDING HILL AT CONNEMARA PARK: Jim Topitzhofer explained that a resident expressed a
concern over the sliding hill in the northeast corner of Connemara Park. The resident's property
adjoins this section of the park and he has observed children sliding in the winter on his
property which is destroying some of the young trees.
Jim Topitzhofer explained to the resident that the Parks and Recreation Department has
discouraged sliding on this hill for liability reasons and that the flood light has been turned off
by staff, however, chitdren have apparently turned it on. City staff have been instructed to lock
the flood light switch.
The resident has requested that the City build a fence along his property separating it from the
park. Jim Topitzhofer expressed that placing a fence in his back yard would not seem
appropriate because there are several other residents which may request fences and the cost
may be prohibitive.
Jim Topitzhofer posed three questions to the Parks and Recreation Committee members which
are as follows.
1.Should we continue to discourage sliding at Connemara Park?
2.Should we build a fence behind the resident's property?
3.Should we build a fence along additional properties?
Parks and Recreation Committee members agreed that sliding should continue to be
discouraged. Mike Eliason also commented that there are different ways to diseourage sliding,
whether rt be by planting trees down the hill, putting up a fence at bottom of parking lot to
discourage people from entering there, or putting up snow fences down the hill.
Committee members also agreed that the city should not put a fence up along the resident's
property as more residen#s would request the same and it would be too costly.
II.APPLICATION FOR CARROLLS WOODS SUB-COMMITTEE: Jim Topitzhofer commented that
this subject was discussed previously in the Carrolls Woods Update. Jim agreed with the
Carrolls Woods Sub-committee members that the application should be tabled until a selection
criteria is set up for the sub-committees.
MOTION by Linda Ladzun to table Mr. Jacobson's application for Carrolls Woods Sub-
committee until selection criteria is completed. SECOND by Jeff Moser. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0.
MOTIG N CA'.RIED.
Mike Eliason requested that a formal letter be sent to Mr. Jacobson explaining why the
application has been tabled, that it was not rejected, and that he is still welcome to attend
meetings and share his opinions.
III. WENSMANN SEVENTH ADD{TION: Jim Topitzhofer discussed the Wensmann Addition. Jim
commented that the Sixth Addition has been approved and is under construction. Wensmann
Sixth Addition was approved in the form of cash and land. The land from the Sixth Addition
was planned to be connected to a larger piece of land to the west to form a mini-park.
The Parks and Recreation Committee members were concemed about the property for the mini-
park extending up to County Road 42. Discussions were held on changing the size and
direction of the park, possibly extending the park further west in to the Seventh Addition
instead of north towards County Road 42.
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MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to accept the land and cash dedication less the utifity easement out
to County Road 42 pending on if the preliminary plat was approved by the Planning Commission
and if not, Wensmann Seventh Addition would be brought back for further discussian at the
Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop meeting. SECOND by Mike Eliason. Ayes: 5
Nays: 0 M0710N CARRlED.
IV. SHANNON POND FOURTH ADDITION: Lacelle Cordes explained that the proposed Fourth
Addition is located at the southeast corner of Shannon Parkway and 160th Street. The
development has 72 lots at 540,032. Lacelle commented that a bikeway will be developed on
the east side of Shannon Parkway, with a sidewalk continuing on Crystal Path on the west side
of 5hannon Parkway and will run through the new addition to eventually hoak up with Winds
Park when the next addition is developed.
Lacelle commented that the cash dedication would be ear marked for the future development
of Winds Park.
Tom Reller asked if more land would be acquired with the next development. Lacelle
commented that approximately three more acres would be acquired.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to accept the cash dedication of S40,320 for the Shannon Pond
Fourth Addition Development. SECOND by Tom Reller. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0 MOTION
CARRIED.
V PARK DEDICATION AND FEE POLFCY: Jim Topitzhofer recommended that the Park Dedication
fee policy be reviewed. Jim asked the Parks and Recreation Committee members to consider
the following questions.
Does the Parks and Recreation Committee desire to have the park dedication fees and
fee policy reviewed and changed in December, 1894?
Does the Committee feel park dedications are too low at this time?
What reasonable research and information would be helpful to the committee in
consider of park dedication fee review?
The Parks and Recreation Committee would like to have the park dedication fees and fee policy
reviewed and changed in December, 1994. Linda Ladzun commented that she believes
Rosemount's fees are too low.
Jerry Puciaty recommended looking at where other cities, 'such a:s Apple Valley, Eagan,
Lakeville and Farmington are using as land values.
Jim Topitzhofer will provide that research and get back to the Committee.
VI. ED BRADSHAW MEMORIAL: The Committee requested that a sympathy card be sent on behalf
of the Parks and Recreation Department. Discussions were held on whether memorial plaques
could placed at park shelters, etc.
VIL CHAIRPERON'S REPORT:
TOM RELLER: None.
JEFF MOSER commented that pertaining to Carrolls Woods the citizen's concem is very
relevant however we do need to decide what is in the best interest of the community as a
whole.
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MIKE ELIASON asked if Twin Puddles playground equipment was removed. Rick Cook
commented that it had been removed. Linda Ladzun asked if any new equipment has been put
in. Jim Topitzhofer commented that no equipment has been installed and that it is an issue to
discuss next spring with the possibility of using park dedication.
LINDA LADZUN asked if staff have researched the cost of recycled playground equipment yet.
Jim Topitzhofer eommented that it is on the list to do, however, staff will begin that project at
a later date when we are ready to install new equipment at Twin Puddles.
Linda also asked who would be attending RAAA meetings. Jim Topitzhofer commented that
Lisa Jost has been asked to attend the meetings on behalf of the Parks and Recreation
Department.
JERRY PUCIATY requested that Tom Burt meet with the Parks and Recreation Committee at
one of the next meetings. Jim Topitzhofer commented that he will speak with Tom Burt about
attending meetings.
VIII. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Jim Topitzhofer stated that Lacelle Cordes recently wrote a newsrelease
on Carrolls Woods and requested the Parks and Recreation Committee members to review the
release.
Jim commented that the investigation of the construction of a trail extension from the east end
of Dodd Boulevard to the trail located on the north side of County Road 42 has been put on
hold.
Jim spoke with School District#196, which has expressed an interest in the activity around the
recently submitted Rosemount Partnership Grant. The School District has an additional funding
source for this type of collaborative program. I have agreed to meet with the School District
on a regular basis to discuss a possible venture.
Jim handed out City Codes for review by the Parks and Recreation Committee.
Linda Ladzun commented that topics for the next Workshop meeting on October 6, 1994, at
7:30 p.m. need to be discussed. Jeff Moser suggested that it would be nice have experts in
the field of recreation attend meeting and share some of the new and exciting ideas that are
being offered. Staff suggested the possibility of someone for the company Earl F. Andersen
to attend the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. SECOND by Mike
Eliason. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST 15, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Relier
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Parks & Recreation and Community Center Director, Rick Cook,
Buildings and Grounds Supervisor, Lacelle Cordes, Parks and Recreation Programmer; Nancy Schrupp,
Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mike Eliason, Jeff Moser
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:46 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: Under New Business, insert as Roman Numeral III — Strese/Burkhalter
Property. Chairperson's Report becomes Roman Numeral IV, Director's Report becomes Roman
Numeral V.
APPROVAL OF THE JULY 18, 1994, MINUTES: An addition to the minutes will be after the Old
Business, RAAA Update. John Howard joined the meeting.
MOTION by Tom Reller to accept the minutes of July 18, 1994, with the above addition. SECOND by
Dave Giliuson. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
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I. RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann and Steve Reischauer were not present to give an update. Jim
Topitzhofer gave an update on the status of the request for a fence on the right side of the
baseball field at Jaycee Park. Lacelle Cordes has contacted the administrators of the Outdoor
Recreation Grant and they will look into the request after they complete their annual review of
current grant proposals.
Tom Neumann in discussion with Dave Giliuson had requested that staff persons be present at
the monthly RAAA meetings. Jim Topitzhofer informed the Parks and Recreation Committee
that Lisa Jost is the staff inember that will be attending the RAAA meetings.
II.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike gave an
overview of some short-term goals that the sub-committee has set. In summary, they are as
follows.
The status of marking the bo ndar s.on the south and west side — wood posts have
been p(aced on the west side, Building and Grounds Department has not started on the
south side yet.
Mailboxes to be moved from southwest entrance — developer has been contacted
twice.
Research winteruses.
Identify existing funding sources.
Continue with buckthom cutting and eradication — looking at starting buckthorn cutting
in November.
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Clarify trails - develop a topographic map and have completed by September meeting,
per a request from a Rosemount resident requesting to see a map showing where the
trails would be.
Rick Cook clarified that the first 100 feet of the southwest trail entrance will be installed next
month. This trail runs between two houses.
A few Rosemount residents living around Carrolls Woods were present at the meeting.
Discussions were held regarding a concem with the type and size of trail being put in. Other
comments made were to allow mountain biking and cross country skiing in Carrolls Woods.
Jerry Puciaty gave his comments on five issues relating to a citizen's concerns about Carrolls
Woods to the Carrolls Woods Sub-committee. They are as follows.
1. Renaminq of Carrolls Woods. Jerry stated that he is against this because this area was
given as park and should ramain a park with free and open access to the residents.
2. MovinQ Haunted Woods Event. Jerry stated that he is against this as well as the
Haunted Woods has become a Rosemount tradition which brings the community
together and creates fellowship and a safe place for the people to come on Halloween.
3. Main Trails. Jerry stated that the main trails should be hard surfaced to allow free
access to the park for all residents, including those which are handicapped. Jerry
commented that even "unruly people" still have a right to the park.
4. Trail Width. Jerry believes eight foot main trails should specify "for ease of access".
5. Dead Materiai in Woods. Jerry commented that perhaps a representative from Dakota
County or State DNR should give us a reading.
Ed Howard, sub-committee member, explained that some of these same issues were addressed
previously and the sub-committee is in accordance with the Master Plan.
Carrolls Woods Sub-committee members would like suggestions from the Parks and Recreation
Committee on how work in Carrolls Woods can be better communicated to residents. Mike
Busho stated that possibly a monthly update could be published in the papers. Parks and
Rec eation Committee members agreed.
III. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer and John Howard gave an
update. Pr g ess has been made on the Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson site. The Parks and Recreation
Committee at their last Workshop meeting on August 4, 1994, made a motion to recommend
to the City Council that park dedication be received for the Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson site in the
form of trail and parking lot construction.
John Howard had attended the Utility Commission meeting on August 8, 1994, to request a
waiver of Sewer Availability Charges ISACt, Water Availabifity Charges (WAC), and Storm
Sewer Availability Charges (STAC). The request was tabled and the Utility Commission
requested that the waiver be officially requested by the Parks and Recreation Committee.
Jim Topizthofer had drafted a letter to Bud Osmundson, Public Works Director, to be presented
at the next Utility Commission meeting.
MOTION by John Howard to send the letter as drafted to the Utility Commission requesting
waiver of the SAC, WAC and STAC charges for Erickson Community Square. SECOND by
Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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Discussions were held regarding the electrical hook-up for Erickson Community Square and
having it done along with Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson.
MOTION by John Howard to have the electrical hook-up for Erickson Community Square be
done with Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson if approved by the Utility Commission. SECOND by
Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
IV. CMC UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer gave an overview and explained that copies of the minutes and
packet information from the Parks and Recreation Committee dated January 1993 and
May 1994, along with the City Council packet information from the meeting dated June 21,
1994, had been included in the committee's packets.
Committee members briefly discussed the issues. Jim Topitzhofer recommended that if CMC
does not receive approval to remove the railroad spur and they have to redesign the plat, this
would be an opportunity for the Parks and Recreation Committee to relocate the park.
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I. DODD ROAD TRAIL EXTENSION: Jim Topitzhofer explained that a resident living on Delft
Avenue inquired about the possibility of constructing a trail that extends from County Road 42
to Dodd Boulevard. Jim stated that the master plan calls for the future construction of a trail
afong Dodd Boulevard connecting to the trail on County Road 42. The trail was not completed
because of the future construction of Dodd Boulevard.
The resident would like to see a trail put in so that residents may walk from Delft Street to Our
Saviors Lutheran Church.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to investigate the construction of a trail extension from the east end
of Dodd Boulevard to the trail located on the north side of County Road 42 near the intersection
of Diamond Path Boulevard and County Road 42, and to proceed with the approval process.
SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
I.RAP GRANTS: Jim Topitzhofer discussed the RAP (Rosemount Activities Program) Grant and
the intentions of it. A I'roposal Abstract was included in the packet information for the Parks
and Recreation Committee meeting of August 15, 1994, which explains the objectives,
agencies involved and the cost. Jim Topizthofer stated that the grant will be reviewed and
decisions made in October.
Jerry Puciaty commended Jim Topitzhofer and those involved far taking the opportunity to go
ahead with this proiect.
lil. STRESE/BURKHALTER PROPERTY: Lacelle Cordes and Jim Topitzhofer had received the
preliminary plat for the Shannon-Meadows Addition on this property. An overhead of the map
was displayed. An overview of the area was given and Lacelle Cordes recommended the Parks
and Recreation Committee to accept the cash dedication for the Strese/Burkhalter Property
Shannon-Meadows Addition) in the amount of 516,800 if platted in lots of 30 or 516,240 if
platted in lots of 29.
Discussions regarding the adjoining property and whether additional park land was needed were
discussed.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to accept the cash dedication for the Strese/Burkhalter Property
Shannon-Meadows Addition) in the amount of $16,800 if platted in lots of 30 or S 16,240 if
platted in lots of 29. SECOND by John Howard. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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IV. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
JERRY PUCIATY: None
TOM RELLER: None
LINDA LADZUN would like staff to investigate/research recycled material used for playground
equipment versus what Rosemount has now in the parks.
JOHN HOWARD commented that he would like to see Erickson Community Square information
be put in the paper as well as Carrolls Woods.
DAVE GILIUSON commented that he will be meeting with Jim Topitzhofer and Lee Knutson,
Community Center Commission Chairperson on Thursday, August 18, 1994, if any committee
members have any issues or concerns to please let him know.
The next Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop Meeting will be held on September 1,
1994. The topic of discussion will be the City Codes in relation to the Parks (2-2-4, Section
A & B).
Dave Giliuson will not be able to attend the next Parks and Recreation Committee meeting on
September 19, 1994.
V. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Jim Topitzhofer stated that staff is still working on getting updates on the tree ordinances, and
the update requested on the Winds Crossing expansion will be available at the next meeting.
Jim gave an update on Birger Pond. The water level has been high and the city has been
pumping water out. A resident living near Birger Pond have rafsed concerns regarding the
easement road and the future road designated to go around the pond. Jim will be responding
to the resident's concern.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjourn the meeting at 9:37 p.m. SECOND by
John Howard. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF JULY 18, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jerry Puciaty,
Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Pa ks and Recreation and Community Center Director; Rick Cook,
Buildings and Grounds Supervisor; Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Department Secretary
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jeff Moser
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:31 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 20, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Linda Ladzun to accept the minutes of the June 20, 1994. SECOND by Mike Eliason.
Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
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I.RAAA UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer gave an overview of discussions from the last Parks and
Recreation Committee meeting. RAAA had requested that an extension to the existing fence
of the basebatl field at Jaycee Park be added. A grant written during the design of the park
allows for a mini-soccer field out in right field of the baseball field. Due to this mini-soccer field,
a #ence was not extended down the right side of the baseball field. The Parks and Recreation
Committee members had stated that a formal written request was needed and they tabted the
discussion.
Steve Reischauer, RARA Consultant, presented the Parks and Recreation Committee on
July 18, 1994, with a formal written request for the waiver of the grant to atlow fo the
extension of the fence and any costs associated with this fence would be the responsibility of
the RAAA Traveling Baseball program. Steve stated that RAAA would lik to s.e this fence
extended prior to the 1995 league play.
The Parks and Recreation Committee requested that staff investigate whether the grant can be
ehanged and if this would jeopardize chances of receiving grants in the future. Committee
Members would like staff to send a letter to the 153rd Street Watch Gro p (citizens who live
near Jaycee Park and are very active in the community) to receivs input from them on the
issue. Also, Committee Members would like Rick Cook, Building and Grounds Supervisor to
measure the field to see if the mini-soccer field could be positioned in the left field instead of
the right.
John Howard joined the meeting at this time.
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II.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer gave an update on Carrolls Woods Sub-
committee's goai setting session held on June 28, 1994. A list of the short term and long term
goals was achieved. Carrolls Woods Sub-committee did not meet on July 18, 1994. The ne c t
meeting will be held on August 15, 1994, at 6:30 p.m. at City HaIL
III. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer stated that the Erickson
Community Square Sub-committee is preparing a brochure for the brick sale to be held during
Leprechaun Days.
Jim stated that the Sub-committee has prepared a Draft Phasing Plan in regard to the
development of Erickson Community Square. This Phasing Plan consists of a list of projects
to be completed, tentative dates, and those responsible for each project.
Erickson Community Square Sub-committee members will be attending the Port Authority
meeting on July 19, 1994. The Port Authority will be defiberating over the items the sub-
committee requested in relation to the adjacent site of Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson.
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I. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH DR. KURT WALTER-HANSON: Jim Topitzhofer gave an
overview of the five items the Erickson Community Square Sub-committee requested that the
Port Authority consider in the proposal, along with the Development Agreement between
Dr. Walter-Hanson and the City of Rosemount. Those five items in summary are an eight foot
trail to be constructed from Highway 3 to Erickson Community Square; parking space after non-
business hours for Erickson Community Square and other City events; owner wilt be entirely
responsible to maintain the site; grading must blend in with grading at Erickson Community
Square; and owner must comply with all City Ordinances listed in Chapter 3 - Parks.
Jerry Puciaty asked if park dedication would be waived in leu of these five items. Jerry stated
that if it is, it should be stated in the proposal. Jim Topitzhofer stated that he believes the five
items are in leu of park dedication, however he will check into it.
Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson was present to participate in the discussions. Dr. Walter-Hanson is
concerned about liability issues in regard to the use of the trail and the parking lot. Dr. Walter-
Hanson would like to see a legal document written up. Linda Ladzun stated that this should
be written into the development agreement.
Rick Cook stated that the shared parking lot issue is the same as with Camfield Park and the
Methodist Church. Linda Ladzun recommended that staff research the agreement the City has
with the Methodist Church, as well as discussi g the issue with the City Attorney.
Dave Giliuson asked Dr. Walter-Hanson if he was in agreement with the five issues. Dr. Walter-
Hanson stated that he is.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to recommend to Port Authority the inclusion of the above five items
as written in the attached Development Agreement with Dr. Kurt Walter-Hanson pending the
explanation of Park Dedication for this property. SfCOND by Linda Ladzun.
Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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II.CHAlRPERSON'S REPORT
JOHN HOWARD: None
JERRY PUCIATY wouid like an update on the CMC property, tree ordinance, and Birger Pond
for the next Parks and Recreation Committee meeting.
LlNDA LADZUN gave an update on the Community Cente Commission mee#ing. She stated
that the Commission Members discussed programming issues. Some of those issues were
indoor and outdoor ice skating, senior programs and theater performances.
MtKE ELIASON asked if the playground structure at Twin Puddles has been torn down yet. Rick
Cook stated that it has not been tom down yet. Rick stated that staff would like to send a
letter out to the residents in the area around Twin Puddles to inform them of the reason why
the structure will be torn down.
Mike asked if the City Council has made any decisions on the Committees and Commissions.
Jim Topitzhofer stated that the City Council has not addressed the issue yet.
TOM RELLER asked about the acquisition of land for Winds Crossing Park. There is supposed
to be three i3) acres added to expand the park and have a parking lot. Jim Topitzhofer stated
that staff will research this issue.
Tom thanked Jim Topitzhofer for the informal Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting and
appreciated Jim taking the time to give the committee a tour of the Community Center.
DAVE GILIUSON stated that the next Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting will be held on
August 4, 1994, at 7:30 p.m. at the Community Center. The main topic of discussion will be
Park Dedication. As time allows, other topics to be discussed will be Park Ordinances and the
Liquor Ordinance in regard to parks.
I11. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Jim Topitzhofer gave a brief overview of the City Council's Goal Setting Session. Jirn stated
that afthough the City Council has not addressed the issue of the Committees and
Commissions, he would like Dave Giliuson and Lee Knutson, Community Center Commission
Chairperson, to meet and discuss this issue as well as their committee's/commission's needs.
Jim would also like to schedule separate goal setting sessions for the Parks and Recreation
Committee, the Community Center Commission, and the City Council.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjoum the meeting at 8:41 p.m. SECOND by Mike
Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATfON COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR ME£TING OF JUNE 20, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser, Tom Retler
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Director Comrnunity Center and Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook,
Parks Supervisor; Lacelle Cordes, Parks and Recreation Programmer; Lisa Jost, Assistant Community
Center Manager; Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Howard, Jerry Puciaty
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:34 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE MAY 16, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Mike Eliason to accept the minutes of the May 16, 1994. SECOND by Jeff Moser.
Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
L:tE S
I.RAAA UPDATE: Steve Reischauer was not present at the meeting to give an update.
However, Jim Topitzhofer stated that in telephone conversations with Steve, RAAA would like
justification as to why there is a missing section of fence on the Jaycee Park baseball field and
that RAAA would consider funding for the fence. RAAA is requesting a fence that is 200 feet
long and 6 feet high to be added on to this basebali field at Jaycee Park.
Jim stated that after discussing this with staff, it was determined that an Outdoor Recreation
Grant was obtained from the Department of Trade & Economic Development in 1989 for the
development of the baseball field. This grant a)so specified the addition of a mini soccer fietd
which would be designed in this location and extends past where the fence would be located.
Jim recommended that because of grant specifications, a fence should not be extended on the
right side of the backfield.
Dave Giliuson stated that he has had baseba{! games at this field and he would like to see a
fence installed. Dave said he would like to see the grant amended in order to allow for a fence.
Jim Topitzhofer stated that he woufd like to hold off on this for now. Lacelle Cordes added that
even though the soccer field is not being utilized right now, that we would fike to have the
flexibility to use it in the future.
Mike Eliason asked if there was a pitching mound on this field and how many fields actually
have pitching mounds. Rick stated that there are three fields with pitching mounds. Mike also
asked i#there was enough space to run the soccer field through the outfields. Lacelle stated
there woufd not be enough space in this area to include a soccer#ield.
Dave Giliuson stated that because no formal written request was received by RAAA in regard
to the addition of the fenee that this item would be tabted.
Dave also commented that Rosemount has the best baseball fields he has ever seen.
I1.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. He stated that
Carrolls Woods wouid begin having an agenda for their meetings which will include audience
input. It has not been started yet but will be far the next Carrolls Woods meeting. Mike stated
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that in regard to Carrolls Woods the sub-committee members would like any questions or
concerns from citizens brought to their attention.
Mike stated that the city engineers have completed their survey of Carrolls Woods. Two
culverts are planned, 22 feet long and 18 inches high. Dave Giliuson asked where the culverts
would be located. Mike stated that the culverts will be located in the southwest corner of
Carrotls Woods near the trail access.
Mike stated that Mark Joosten will start doing some test plots with herbicide for buckthom as
time permits.
Mike also stated that the construction of a trail will not begin until late July or in August.
A goal setting meeting has been scheduled for June 28, 1994, at 6 p.m. at the Community
Center. Also, no meeting will be held in July for Carrolls Woods. The next meeting wi11 be in
August
Dave Giliuson asked if someone wanted to have something added to the Carrolls Waods
agenda, who would be the contact? Mike stated that the person could contact him or
Jim Topitzhofer with agenda items.
II1. EFiICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jeff Moser gave an update on Erickson
Community Square. Jeff stated that the Erickson Community Square Sub-committee wifl also
be establishing the use of an agenda using the same policy as Carrolls Woods.
Erickson Community Square funds are at 519,408. They also received a 5250 donation from
City Limits. City Limits also requested that Erickson Community Square Sub-committee seek
another donation this fall from them.
Jeff stated that Ginny Christiansen will be providing a list of plants to be used for landscaping.
Chuck Novak, Ginny Christiansen and the Eriekson Community Square Sub-committee will be
giving their presentation on June 28, 1994, to the Planning Commission._
Jeff stated that they will be holding a brick sale to help raise funds for the project. The bricks
will cost S50 each. Kathy Busho, Council Member, also added that this is a fund raiser and by
purchasing a brick you can have your name put on the brick and it will become part of the
landscaping or the building. Linda asked if these bricks would be on a wall or on the ground.
Kathy and Jeff both stated that no decision has been made as to where the bricks would be
located.
ii13US l;I'5;
I. REORGANIZATION: Tom Burt, City Administrator, was available to diseuss the reorganization
of the city. Tom explained that he had discussed the reorganization with department heads as
well as with the city staff. Staff members were given an opportunity to create an organizationa!
chart on how they thought the City and Departments should look. These organizational charts
were given to Tom, compiled and the structure was finalized and presented to the City Council
for approval. Due to the combining of the Parks and Recreation Department with Community
Center, one department head, the Director of Parks and Recreation, Dave Bechtold, was laid
off. A(so, the Parks Maintenance employees were moved from the Parks and Recreation
Department to the Public Works Department. Tom stated that by doing this he has heard some
concerns that the service (such as cutting grass, fields not be worked on) may suffer. Tom
stated that he, Bud Osmundson, Rick Cook and Mike Widstrom will be working on a priority
system for the use of equipment so that there will never be competition.
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Dave Giliuson stated that it would have been nice to have been informed by someone that Dave
was being laid off. He found out by reading it in the Rosemount Town Pages. Tom Burt
responded by stating the issue of Mr. Bechtold's departure is a personnel matter which the City
Council solely addresses.
Dave Giliuson is very concerned as to how this will affect the Parks and that by combining two
positions into one seems like a lot to handle. Dave stated that he does not want to see the
Parks System suffer. Tom Burt stated that he does not feel that the Parks System will suffer
because of the very capable staff still on board.
Dave Giliuson also asked what would happen to the Parks and Recreation Committee, would
the members be iet go or will they combine with the Community Center Commission?
Tom Burt stated as far as the Parks and Reereation Committee eombining or being let go is
concerned, he was not asked to look at that. He stated that this would be up to the City
Council. Each of the committees and commissions are advisory boards to the council and any
decisions on these would be solely up to the City Council. This issue will be considered at the
City Councif's goal setting session on July 9, 1994.
Linda Ladzun stated that in her opinion by combining the Parks and Recreation Committee with
the Community Center Commission she feels that this would be a devastating move. She feels
the amount of time the Parks and Recreation Committee spends on specific projects is very
important and that if the committee and commission were combined, they would not be able
to do a thorough job of reviewing projects.
Dave Giliuson asked about the City of Rosemount Organizational Chart and inquired why Parks
Maintenance is not included in the Public Works Department. Tom Burt stated that it was an
oversight on his part but that it was intended to be under Public Works. Tom also re-assured
committee members that Rick Cook will still have input for the Parks and Recreation Committee
Meetings.
Dave Giliuson asked about the City of Rosemount Organizational Chart for the Community
Center/Parks and Recreation Department and who the Park Specialist position was intended for.
Tom stated that decisions on specific job assignments have not been decided yet, however, we
have discussed Lacelfe Cordes as fulfilfing the duties of Park Specialist.
Mike Eliason added that he also was disappointed in the fact that he too found out about the
lay off of Dave Bechtold through the Rosemount Town Pages.
Dave Gitiuson stated that he hopes we can continue on with quality Parks and Recreation
programs. He has same serious concerns regarding this.
II.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
LINDA LADZUN asked what will happen with the Parks and Recreation Workshops and briefly
explained the usefulness of the workshops. Dave Giliuson stated that he had disc ssed this
with Jim and that meetings will be held as usual until the City Council deems otherwise.
Linda also asked where we were at with the ADA playground upgrades at the parks. Lacelle
Cordes stated that the upgrades will begin August 1, 1994, and should be completed by
September 1, 1994. Upgrades are being funded from the budgeted Assistant Director's Salary,
with the exception of two parks Twin Puddles and Connemara. Twin Puddles will be torn down
and Connemara upgrade has been postponed.
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Linda stated that a tour of the parks was conducted at the last Workshop. She thanked the
Parks Maintenance Staff for doi g a good job and commented that the parks look very nice.
MfKE ELIASON stated that he would like to see Twin Puddles playground equipment torn down
as soon as possible. He has watched kids play on the equipment and feels it is only a matter
of time before someone gets injured.
JEFF MOSER agreed with Linda on the condition of the parks. He stated that they are in
excellent shape and that the staff is doing a great job.
TOM RELLER is concerned about the up-keep of parks. He would like the Parks and Recreation
Committee to receive a copy of the priority system list that Tom Burt had stated would be
worked on with Bud Osmundson, Mike Widstrom and Rick Cook.
Tom is also concerned about the outdoor ice skating lessons. He realizes that it may not bring
in a lot of money but that there are still plenty of people to enjoy the program. Jim Topitzhofer
stated that this issue is one that will be looked at again for this year and if we dete mine there
is a need to have outdoor skating lessons, then we will have them.
Tom mentioned that Dave Bechtold was working on trying to get a set minimum amount of
green space when townhomes are built and is concerned the issue might be dropped. Lacel{e
believes this was not completed, however Dave did a good job of keeping her up-to-date.
Dave Giliuson stated that he was one of the people in charge of the RAAA baseball tournament
held this past weekend at Erickson Park and he thanked the Public Works Parks Maintenanee
Staff that worked that weekend. They did an outstanding job!
Dave Giliuson also stated that he appreciated the job that Dave Bechtold did and that he will
miss him.
ill. DIRECTOR'S REPOfiT
Jim Topitzhofer stated that the Parks and Recreation Committee members were invited by Barb
Schmidt of the Dakota County Parks and Recreatian to a picnic being held at Spring Lake Park
at 6:30 p.m. on iuesday, June Zi, 1994.
Jim took some tirne to tell the Parks and Recreation Committee members about himself and his
experience.
Dave Giliuson on behali the Parks and Recreation Committee wefcomed Jim.
Lsnda Ladzun reminded members of the Workshop Meeting to be held on July 7, 1994, at 7:30
at the Community Center, Room 205. Afso the items to be discussed will be as follows:
Members wil! receive a tour of the Community Center, an update on Ca rolls Woods Sub-
committee goal setting session, an update from the Erickson Community Square Sub-
committee, and they will discuss the ADA playground safety upgrades.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjourn the meeting at 8:38 p.m. SECOND by
Mike Etiason. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 16, 1994
MEMBERS PRfSENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,
Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation;Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation
Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to arder at 7:35 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 18, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by John Howard to accept the minutes of the April 18, 1994. SECOND by Mike Eliason.
Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOT10N CARRtED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
t:a:;S]11IE....'
I.RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann was not present to give an update. Dave Bechtold stated that
Tom is very busy preparing for the RAAA Soccer Tournament and Fast Pitch Softbalt
Tournament that wifl be held this weekend. There are 120 soccer teams and 32 fast pitch
softball teams participating in these events.
Dave stated that we need to get RAAA to utilize our fields more. Jerry Puciaty asked if this
is in regard to just Erickson or all the fields in the other parks and whether the fields can handle
ail the extra usage and/or maintenance staff keep up with maintaining them: Dave stated that
the fiefds can handle it. The council has worked very positively in supplying irrigation that
allows for greater hours of use of the fields. As for maintenance, staff may have to work some
overtime as needed.
Mike Eliason asked how much we usuaHy make from the tournaments. Dave stated that we
typically charge 5250 to 5300. This money goes into the revenue account for softball and
helps pay for our softball program. At the end of the year,the money Ieft goes into the general
budget for next year.
li.CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike stated that
not much is taking place in Carrolls Woods right now. Mike stated that the Carrolls Woods
Sub-Committee wilt have formal agendas done for their meetings. The agenda will include
audience input, which will be limited to 5 minutes per person. The sub-committe is then to
take action, if any, on the issue. Also,the sub-committee will be working on goal setting, plan
of action, and scheduling of the goals.
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Mike stated that Carrolls Woods Park will remain as the name of the park. However, "Nature
Area" will be used along with it and in conversations. This follows the Master Plan.
Mike stated that Bud Osmundson is working on the design of the new trail and the culvert next
to the pand.
Dave Gitiuson asked if the signage (Kiosks) for the southwest entrance is listed in the Master
Plan. Dave Bechtold stated that it is not specifically stated in the Master Pfan for this particular
signage, however the Master Plan does discuss signage.
III. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jeff Moser gave a shart summary of where the
Erickson Community Square Sub-Committee is at in regard to the amphitheater project. Jeff
stated that the sub-committee received 57,500 from USPCI thanks to a letter that Deanna
Simpson put together.
Jeff stated that they are still in search of someone to volunteer to do the landscaping, however,
they may need to hire someone. They are also still looking for a structural engineer.
Jeff stated that the sub-committee is ready to present the plans to various commissions. Dave
6echtold also stated that all Erickson Community Square Sub-committee members should be
present at these meetings and that he will be asking Chuck Novak to attend the Utility
Commission meeting as well.
V. WORKSHOP SUMMARY(PARK WATCH MEETINGI: Dave Bechtold stated that the Park Watch
meeting went very well and about 45 citizens attended. Jeff Moser also stated that he thought
it was a very good meeting.
Judy and Barry Baker talked about their neighborhood. Dave discussed park watch issues and
Sgt. O'Leary discussed crime watch issues. Dave also discussed the dog ordinance for parks
and how there is a need for an ordinance of this nature for the city overall.
Dave stated that the RAP group would like to start a Park Watch at Kidder Park and become
involved in the Adopt-A-Park Program.
NE1N BUSf;11tES
I.CMC DEVELOPMENT: Dave Bechtold discussed the proposed development and plans for the
park and trails. A map of the development was available that showed the proposed park
location and trail locations. This development was discussed at the Parks and Recreation
Committee meeting in January 1993, when it was in the first planning stages. Dave stated that
the park will be a mini-park concept that follows the Master Plan in design.
Dave recommended that the park dedication be used to develop the park and the cash used to
build the park at the same time as the development. The remaining cash should go towards
the park system for upgrades and improvements at other parks. Dave stated that he feels when
as many as fifty homes are built within the development that the park should be built with it
and be ready for use when people move in.
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Tom Reller asked what kind of time frame we are looking at. Dave Bechtold stated that it
depends on the developer's time frame.
Dave Bechtold commented that the Planning Commission was concerned that the mini-park was
not far enough south. Dave stated that if the park was moved more south he would be
concerned with it being tao close to the railroad tracks. Dave also recommended that in this
mini-park, the Parks and Recreation Cornmittee aceept no less than what Jaycee Park has for
play equipment. There are good trails in the design to get the residents to other major trails,
to the parks, etc.
Dave stated that the developer would like to put a trail through the park. ave did not
recommend it at this time, however, if in the future a trail is needed, he recommends a trail no
wider than 8 feet. lf the developer would like to have this trail through the park, staff will work
with them on the location and design.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty with a SECOND by John Howard to accept the land dedication in the
amount of 2.4 acres for the development of a mini-park with the remaining dedication balance
to be taken.as cash. The park is to be constructed during the first phase of the development
or in conjunction with the second phase of the development with access to the park made
available at that time. Trails are to be constructed in conjunction with the roadway
construction through the development to serve as connecting routes to the parks and other
main bike/walking trails. The trail along Biscayne Avenue is to be constructed in conjunction
with the development that adjoins that street. Cost of the trail along 145th Street will be
established with that amount to be paid by the developer and escrowed to be used at the time
of the 145th Street reconstruction and/or trail installation. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
Jerry Puciaty asked if a more definite motion was needed on trails. Dave Bechtold stated that
if the trails can not be put in as they have been identified on the map, it will come back to the
Parks and Recreation Committee to discuss new trail routes.
II.SET WORKSHOP TOPIC: Jeff Moser recommended that the workshop topic consist of taking
a tour of the parks. Dave Bechtold stated it was a very good idea and that he would check into
possibly renting a bus to accommodate everyone.
MOTION by Jeff Moser to set the workshop topic as a parks tour on Thursday, June 2, 1994,
at 7 p.m. SECOND by Tom Reller. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRtED.
Itt. CHAIRPERSON`S REPORT:
JEFF MOSER: None
TOM RELLER: None
DAVE GILIUSON: None
JERRY PUCIATY asked for an update on the playground equipment upgrades. Dave Bechtold
handed out a draft summary sheet listing the goals, objectives and policy statements in regard
to the playground upgrades. Dave also mentioned that he had cMecked with Mankato and
South St. Paul policies on ptayground upgrades. Both these cities have put lists together that
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identify all the pa ks a d a detailed timetab{e for the upgrades within eaeh park. Dave stated
that this listing is something Rosemount is doing as wetl.
Jerry also asked about Birger Pond and whether Parks and Recreation has title to it and if it can
be used. Dave Bechtold stated that Parks and Recreatian own 11 acres, however 10 acres is
under water. Dave stated that he would need to discuss the issue of use, such as paddle
boating or canoeing, at the next staff planning meeting.
LINDA LADZUN would like to know when the City Administrator is going to come to a meeting.
Dave Bechtold stated that he will invite him again for the June meeting.
Linda reminded committee members of the Grand Opening of the Community Center, which is
scheduled for Sunday, May 22, 1994, from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.
JOHN HOWARD asked what, if any, kind of response had been received on the By-Law issue.
Dave Bechtold stated that the City Administrator is waiting until#he re-organization process is
complete before reviewing the 8y-Law issue further. He will meet with the committee on that
item.
MIKE ELIASON stated that he would also like to meet the City Adminis#rator.
IV. DiRECTOR'S REPORT: Dave Bechtold passed out the Spring Brochure to remind committee
members of Park Improvement Day to be held on May 21, 1994.
Dave also reminded committee members of Arbor Day. A tree planting ceremony is being hefd
at Jaycee Park on Wednesday, May 18, 1994, at 7 p.m. He would like to see all cammittee
members attend. Dave will be giving the opening presentation, the Mayor is schedufed to give
the Arbor Proclamation, however, Dave stated that if the Mayor is unable to attend he would
like a Parks and Recreation Committee member to do it. Mark Joosten wil{ be planting the
trees. Dave Giliuson offered to read the Praclamation if the Mayor could not attend. Ne will
let the Director know for sure.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m. SECOND by
Mike Eliason. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 18, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,
Jerry Puciaty
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook, Parks Maintenance
Supervisor; Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Reller
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:38 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE iGENDA: NONE
APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 21, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to accept the minutes of the March 21, 1994, meeting. SECOND by Linda
Ladzun. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: NONE
B j1 ES r
I.RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann was present to give an update. Tom stated that RAAA has
been very fortunate with having very good program directors. This has lead to more kids
joining the various leagues. Due to the growth, RAAA is working on balancing the needs of
the kids to improve the programs.
Mike Eliason asked if RAAA has had to cut kids from the programs. Tom stated that they are
not cutting any kids and do not plan to, however, RAAA may need to limit the growth in the
future or start holding double header games, and consider Friday night and more weekend play.
II.UPDATE ON GENERAL DEVELOPMENT ISSUES: Dave Bechtold had met with Rick Pearson
from the Planning Department to discuss development issues. From that meeting, Dave typed
up a summary sheet on the development status of each of the following: Shannon Ponds,
Westridge, Country Hills,O'Leary's Hills,Shannan Hills,CMC,Strese Property,GTI Theater and
the Business Park.
III. JAYCEE PARK UPDATE: Dave Bechtold discussed finishing the south part of Jaycee Park.
Also, the Parks and Recreation Department will be advertising the Jaycee Shelter as well as
other park shelters this summer in the local papers, such as the "This Week" Newspaper and
Rosemount Town Pages".
IV. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update on the Carrolls
Woods Sub-committee meeting. Mike stated that buckthorn clearing took place on
April 9, 1994, and there were nine volunteers as well as four staff inembers. A "good sias"
section was cleared out heading down towards the Halloween trail. Staff inembers have been
clearing buckthorn during the week and they have cleared out the southwest corner. They will
stop ctearing buckthorn on April 19 or 20, 1994, as spring flowers and other growth are
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II.WORK SESSION/PARK WATCH PROGRAM WITH CITIZENS: Dave stated that the Parks and
Recreation Department has received several catls from concerRed citizens regarding graffiti and
vandalism in the parks and what they can do to help. Dave has been in contact with Judy
Baker who is head of a group called the "153rd Street Watch Group". Judy offered to hold a
meeting and will be sending invitations to staff from the Parks and Recreation Department as
well as staff from the Police Department. The meeting will be held on Thursday, May 5, 1994,
at 7:30 p.m. at the Jaycee Park shelter.
Dave recommended that the Parks and Recreation Committee consider the park watch concept
for their Workshop meeting on May 5, 1994.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to have the topic of "park watch" for the May Parks and Recreation
Committee Workshop and to meet at the Jaycee Shelter at 7:30 p.m. with the residents from
that area as per their invitation. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
III. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
LINDA LADZUN: None.
JEFF MOSER: None.
JOHN HOWARD: John had been to some of the parks and had picked up some trash but
noticed that there were no trash cans in the parks. John is wondering if they were taken out
for the winter and when they will be put in. Rick Cook stated that the trash cans should be out
this week.
John also asked what the status was of checking into the By-Law change regarding the Director
of Parks and Recreation. Dave Bechtold stated that it will be addressed as soon as there is
further completion of department evaluations by the City Administrator.
MIKE ELIASON: Mike stated that he was touring the park near his house IConnemara Park) and
noticed graffiti, swear words and some "gang related" symbols spray painted on the canopy
and benches. Mike asked if the Parks and Recreation Department has heard anything from the
Police Department as to any leads on if they caught anyone. Dave Bechtold stated that he has
not heard anything.
Dave stated that he is working with Rick Cook, the City Administrator and the Police Chief on
a city policy that will address these issues. Dave has also met with Ron Wasmund to discuss
working on a policy on how to take care of writing a city ordinance to respond to the subject
of unwanted graffiti.
JERRY PUCIATY: Jerry commented that he would like to meet Tom Burt, the City
Administrator and asked if he would be attending one of the Parks and Recreation Committee
meetings. Dave Bechtold stated that Tom Burt will be invited to one of the meetings.
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IV. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
Dave Bechtold stated that Mark Joosten and Lacelle Cordes and he will be attending an award
ceremony to accept an award for the City of Rosemount for being named a Tree City USA city.
This ceremony will be held at the State Capitol on April 21, 1994, from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.
Dave stated that Tom Burt, the City Administrator, attended the RAP meeting. Tom is very
supportive of the concept issues discussed.
Dave discussed the issue of dogs in the parks and that there seems to be a real problem this
year. He stated that there is a very strong Dog Ordinance under the Police Department.
However, Rosemount might consider a "city-wide" ordinance that will mirror the park
ordinances to help control these issues.
Dave stated that the Parks and Recreation Department has made temporary signs that have
been posted in the parks relating to the pooper scooper and leash ordinances. Permanent signs
have been ordered.
Linda Ladzun asked about putting an article in the paper relating to these issues. Dave Bechtold
stated that the City of Rosemount is planning to do that, however the letter should come from
the Police Chief. Dave will work with the chief on this.
Dave stated that he and Jim Koslowski have asked Earl F. Andersen for a list consisting of all
Type A and B hazards for the playgrounds, the cost, and a timetable to get items replaced or
fixed. Earl F. Andersen was given a deadline of April 28, 1994, to get this list to them.
Dave stated that funding will need to be looked into because this budget request was not
approved. Park dedication was not designed to be used towards replacing items. However,
Dave stated that the Parks and Recreation Committee may have to at some time, address this
issue and possibly allow the use of park dedication for this project. Future discussions will
need to take place.
Jerry commented that he would like to see the City Council help replace those funds in a timely
fashion if we are required to use park dedication funds. Park dedication has been identified for
new park projects and upgrades, but not for replacement and repair.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting at 8:31 p.m. SECOND by
Mike Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 21, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,
Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook, Park Supervisor;
Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Puciaty
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:31 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: NONE
APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 28, 1994, MINUTES: Approval of minutes with the following
corrections: Page 3, Paragraph 6 "Linda Ladzun asked if there are grants available . . . Livingston
stated that there might be some . . ."; Page 3, Paragraph 9 ". . . a summary of this data"; Page 4,
Paragraph 6 should read ". . . along with this concept possible uses of the building were discussed .
and Page 5, Paragraph 6 "Also, Mike requested, on behalf of the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee
MOTION by John Howard to accept the_ minutes of the February 28, 1994, meeting with the
corrections. SECOND by Michael Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: Mike Busho, Carrolls Woods Chairperson discussed the World Ringette Tournament
that started on Saturday, March 19, 1994, and the need for volunteers. He mentioned some of the
activities that are taking place this week that are in need of volunteers. If any of the Parks and
Recreation committee members are interested, they should contact Kathy Busho. Mike stated, if you
want to volunteer you get free admission in to the arena for the day's festivities. Also, he stated that
the Parks and Recreation Committee is real important to the tournament and that they should come and
see the festivities that are going on.
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I.RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann was present to give an update. Tom stated that baseball,
softball, and track on the in-house side have nearly 2000 participants and should be "hitting"
the fields soon. In-house soccer registration will be held around the third week in April. There
should be approximately 800 participants.
A traveling program philosophy has been developed by the board. They are now working on
an update of the in-house programming philosophy. The in-house information for the over all
RAAA and for each program will be given out at registration time.
RAP program seems to be quite successful. They have a very large number asking for
scholarships. RAAA also received a donation from Parent Communication Network to help
cover about half the costs of those fees.
RAAA has display cabinets at Rosemount Middle School and Scott Highland Middle School.
RAAA is not able to pass out flyers so the flyers are posted in the cabinets and extras are
available in the principal's office. The Parks and Recreation department is also welcome to use
the cabinets. Steve Reischauer and Tom have keys for the cabinets.
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Traveling soccer tournament is scheduled for mid-May. About 100 teams are anticipated to
participate. Jaycee Park will be used for a lot of those games.
Four new board members have joined the RAAA. None are from Rosemount.
RAAA newsletter articles are due on April 22, 1994. The Parks and Recreation Department is
welcome to submit an article if they would like.
Dave Bechtold presented Tom with a plaque on behalf of the Parks and Recreation Department
in appreciation of his community service through RAAA in 1992 and 1993.
A plaque was also to be presented to Steve Reischauer, however, Steve could not attend the
meeting. Tom Neumann will be presenting it to Steve in behalf of the Parks and Recreation
Department.
Dave Giliuson also extended his appreciation to RAAA and the Parks Department for doing a
fantastic job. This is accomplished from their working together.
II.PARK DEDICATION/BUSINESS PARK: Dave Bechtold stated that at the August 16, 1993,
meeting of the Parks and Recreation Committee, we were asked by the former City
Administrator to respond tn the Business Park which is a project of the Port Authority. Kathy
Busho at that meeting, discussed the fact that although we are not putting in the ponding area
in this portion of development, we should consider the ponding and trails in the next
development.
Dave Bechtold's recommendation is to consider altering our park dedication request to land.
The land would be around the pond allowing for a linear park trail concept to include tables,
benches, trees and landscaping. The park dedication would be the amount of acreage included
in a 30 to 40 foot width around the pond. Dave stated that the business park property owners
could cross the trail for counting density for lot coverage.
In summary, Dave stated that what we would have is a public linear park concept in the
business park that would eventually be part of a linear park concept that could go all the way
from County Road 42 to 160th Street. He stated that the business and industria! commercial
dedication would enhance the business park, make it marketable, enhance open space for the
city and to give additional open space for park use. The Port Authority is considering the
continuance of the linear park concept in the rest of their development.
John Howard questioned if we might be in someone else's property line. Dave Bechtold stated
that the entire pond will be a utility easement. A utility easement allows for depth of the
property.
Tom Reller asked who would be responsible for maintenance. Dave Bechtold stated that the
Parks Department will be in charge of maintenance for the Linear Park and the Utilities
Department is in charge of the holding pond.
John Howard asked if the development of the trail along County Road 42 and Biscayne would
be paid for by the Port Authority. Dave Bechtold stated that is correct and that the trail around
the pond will be built with park funds.
Tom Reller asked if the businesses could be liable for initial landscaping. Dave Bechtold stated
that it would be inappropriate to require them to pay for landscaping, but we could ask them
to share in the costs.
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MOTION by John Howard to rescind action taken at the August 16, 1993, meeting for a cash
dedication to the Business Park and to move that park dedication for the Business Park (Phase
I) be a land dedication in the amount that is in accordance with the present park dedication
ordinance. SECOND by Dave Giliuson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Committee members felt it would be appropriate to ask the developers to consider helping with
landscaping, costs for landscaping, and maintenance.
111. BY-LAW REVIEW: Dave Bechtold recommended that the By-Law update and review be tabled.
Dave had met with Tom Burt, the new City Administrator, and until Tom has a chance to
interact with the committee, we should consider tabling the item.
MOTION by Linda Ladzun to table discussions of the By-Law update and review at this time.
SECOND by Tom Reller. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
IV. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: John Howard stated that there is no update at
this time. The next meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday, March 22, 1994.
V. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present to give an update. Mike stated that
they have received the USPCI Trust Fund grant for 57,500 for construction of the southwest
entrance, trail, culvert and bridge, and landscaping.
Mike stated that the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee would like feedback/input from the Parks
and Recreation Committee as to what kind of entrance would be appropriate at the southwest
side.
Dave Giliuson asked if this is still in the working stages. Mike stated that it is and that the first
order is to get the entrance made, then the trail and some landscaping.
Mike stated that there will be a volunteer "chipping and pulling party" for buckthorn on
Saturday, April 9, i 994, from 9 to 1 1:30 a.m. If interested, meet at the southwest entrance
side.
Mike along with Dave Bechtold stated that the Engineering Department will begin surveying the
west property line and stake it out sometime this week.
Mike stated that the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee made a motion to have staff research the
cutting of a trail loop on the northeast corner by Schwarz Park.
Dave Bechtold stated that he has applied for a grant to hire an intern. If the grant is approved
he will then need to go through the City Administrator and City Council to get approval for
hiring. If the grant is not approved, a summer maintenance worker position will be assigned
to this person. But in any case, we do have a seasonal person scheduled to help out.
In closing, Mike stated that short-term funding is OK at this time, however, they are looking
into long-term funding for items such as the Interpretive Center.
Dave Bechtold added that he feels both the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee and the Erickson
Community Square Subcommittee are doing an excellent job.
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I.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
MICHAEL ELIASON: None.
DAVE GILIUSON: None.
TOM RELLER: None.
LINDA LADZUN stated that the Grand Opening for the Community Center has been tentatively
set for May 21, 1994. Also, she took a tour of the building and stated that it is very niceF
JOHN HOWARD asked how the Kiosk project was going, if it was approved. Dave Bechtold
stated that use of the property for the Kiosk project was approved by the City Council and City
Attorney. Now the City of Rosemount, Dakota County and Dakota County Technical College
need to work closely together on this project. The Planning Department of Dakota County also
asked about having a water fountain. Dave Bechtold is discussing this with Ron Wasmund on
how we can accomplish getting one installed.
JEFF MOSER stated that he would like to join the Erickson Community Square Subcommittee
and that it would be a good learning experience.
Jeff also stated that a neighbor asked him if there is going to be men's and women's hockey
leagues available at the ice arena. Linda Ladzun stated that she would check on this.
MOTION by Dave Giliuson to have Jeff Moser join the Erickson Community Square
Subcommittee. SECOND by John Howard. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
IL DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
Nancy Schrupp explained to the committee members that they will be receiving an approved
copy of all minutes that will contain corrections (ifany). A memo was given to them along with
the January "Approved" minutes. Nancy also stated they received the Parks and Recreation
Booklet.
Dave Bechtold explained the reason for the Parks and Recreation Booklet and its use. Dave also
stated that each committee member has received copies of the ADA Inspection of Playground
Summaries and went on to remind them of the Workshop Meeting scheduled for April 7, 1994,
to discuss the inspections in greater detail. This report als'o included consumer safety
inspection results and recommendations.
Dave stated that he will be inviting Tom Burt, the City Administrator, to a Parks and Recreation
Meeting soon, so that Tom can have a chance to meet everyone.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting at 8:37 p.m. Linda Ladzun
SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 28, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Eliason, Dave Giliuson, John Howard, Linda Ladzun, Jeff Moser,
Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor;
Lacelle Cordes, Parks and Recreation Programmer; John Fremming, Maintenance Level I (Parks);
Mark Joosten, Maintenance Level II 1Parks; Jim Koslowski, Maintenance Level II (Parks);
Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Puciaty
SWEARING IN OF NEW TERM COMMITTEE MEMBERS: Sue Walsh was present to swear in the two
new committee members, Michael Eliason and Jeff Moser. The swearing in took place at 7:37 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:38 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Vice Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: The ADA Presentation by Bill Bach and Bill Livingston of Earl F.
Anderson, was moved under Old Business to become item number IV. Under Old Business, By-Laws
originally item number IV, was moved to become item number VII.
APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 24, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Tom Reller to accept the minutes of the January 24, 1994, meeting. SECONDED by John
Howard. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: NONE.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
MOTION by John Howard to nominate Dave Giliuson for Chairperson of the Parks and Recreation
Committee. SECONDED by Linda Ladzun. No other motions for nominations were made.
MOTION by Michael Eliason to close nominations and vote for Dave Giliuson for Chairperson.
SECQNDED by Jeff Moser. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION by Tom Reller to nominate Linda Ladzun for Vice Chairperson of the Parks and Recreation
Committee. SECONDED by John Howard. No other motions for nominations were made.
MOTION by John Howard to close nominations and vote for Linda Ladzun for Vice Chairperson.
SECONDED by Michael Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
RAP UPDATE: Meetings are being held on the third Thursday of each month. Pro ress seems to be
made as to the importance of all government offices working together rather than identifying this as
a park issue. Cimarron Village residents are now joining us at the meetings.
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I.AWARD DEANNA SIMPSON AND SCOTT RYNERSON THEIR PLAaUES: Dave Bechtold
presented the plaques to Scott and Deanna commending them on their service and support.
II.RAAA UPDATE (Tom Nuemann and Dave Bechtold): Tom Nuemann was not present at the
meeting. Dave Bechtold informed the members that the RAAA held their February Board
meeting at the VAAA facility at Hayes Park in Apple Valley. Dave Giliuson reported that
baseball sign-ups were held.
III. KIOSK PROJECT — DAKOTA COUNTY TECHNICAL COLLEGE STUDENTS TO GIVE INPUT:
Mr. Skujins, Architectural Instructor and three students, Rob Harker, Ed Cortil and Nathan
Jolson were present to give a short presentation. Mr. Skujins appreciated the fact the
committee gave him and his students an opportunity to present their project. Rob Harker gave
an overview of the architectural class and its purpose. Ed Cortil, creator of the bicycle bench
design discussed the concept of the bicycle bench and the materials it would be made out of.
Nathan Jolson, creator of the canopy design discussed the design and what materials would
be used. Both the canopy and the bicycle bench will use 2" diameter steel pipes and material
called "future" wood. This wood is of ecycled material that is very durable, low cost and low
maintenance.
Dave Bechtold explained that all costs for constructing the Kiosk would be paid by Dakota
County. The City of Rosemount will be in charge of maintenance of the area after completion.
Dave also noted that Mike Miles, City Attorney, is checking on the site in regard to a US West
Lease on that site.
Dave Giliuson asked if there would be anymore in Rosemount. Dave Bechtold stated that there
is only one planned for Rosemount through the county, but the city could construct others at
our parks and trails.
The Parks and Recreation Committee thanked Mr. Skujins and the three students for taking the
time to come in and give a presentation and told them they did a good job.
IV. ADA PRESENTATION(EARL F.ANDERSON REPRESENTATIVESI: Bill Bach of Earl F. Anderson
and Bill Livingston of Landscape Structures, Inc. were present to give a presentation on how
they evaluated Rosemount's playground sites.
Mr. Livingston stated that by 1995 all playgrounds should meet guidelines and standards of
ADA and CPSC. This is regarding liability issues. Also in 1995 accessibility to parks is a must.
Mr. Livingston showed written material that we should have regarding standards, etc. One
item is the American Society for Test and Material, which sets standards for playground
equipment.
Mr. Livingston stated that you do not have to upgrade all at once. He stated that we may
want to pick out the Class A issues, which is entrapments, and get those upgraded, then work
on another group such as Class C, which is protrusions.
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Tom Reller asked who sets the time frames to have the upgrades completed and what if the
deadlin s are not met. Bill Livingston stated it would be the city or the Parks and Recreation
Committee who would set the time frames for completion. He also stated that as long as we
can show the CPSC (a government agency) that we are working on the upgrades there should
not be a problem.
John Howard stated that he wanted to make sure he understand correctly that we are not
mandated by law that we have to upgrade at this time. Mr. Livingston stated that is correct
and continued by saying that he feels we are far ahead of many cities by having the park
evaluations and recommendations completed.
Dave Bechtold stated that we contacted Earl F. Anderson to assist in helping with identifying
hazards in parks so we could prepare for future upgrading.
Jim Koslowski, Parks Maintenance staff member, asked if all the parks have to be handicapped
accessible by 1995. Mr. Livingston stated that by 1995 it should be accessible, however, if
you have a park with a playground up on a hill that would be difficult to get a wheel chair up,
it would not be feasible. A goal would be to have at least one park in each area of the city
accessible and continue to meet the standards and recommendations from that point as
funding becomes available.
Mr. Livingston stated that the current standards were used to conduct the survey for
Rosemount.
Linda Ladzun asked if there are grants available to help with upgrading. Livingston stated that
there might be some for accessibility issues.
Mr. Livingston continued by giving an example of what kind of data they have for each park.
For each park there is map of the park as is, a map showing just the playground, and a
modified map showing use zones Idotted lines) around play equipment, and/or play equipment
moved or taken out completely. There is also a list, which Earl F. Anderson refers to as a
Laymans List". This list contains information on each piece of play equipment and why it was
moved, taken out, replaced, etc., in common lay persons language.
Bill Bach stated that the Parks Department has the data and that he will be working directly
with Dave Bechtold and go over the plans. Dave Bechtold added that he will be asking
Earl F. Anderson to meet with staff as well.
Linda Ladzun asked if the Parks and Recreation Committee would be getting a summary of this
data. Dave Bechtold said copies of the study will go out to each committee member.
The Parks and Recreation Committee thanked Bill Bach and Bill Livingston for coming and
giving the a presentation.
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V. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: John Howard gave a summary, with input from
Deanna;Simpson who was present at the meeting.
The National Guard has informed us that they cannot grade the amphitheater at this time.
Dave Bechtold will contact the 49'ers.
John said that in discussions with Ed Howard, Ed stated that the National Guard we discussed
grading with may not be the only guard to use.
The committee reviewed Chuck Novak's proposal. Chuck is donating is services for this
project. There are three different floor plans. Floor Plan A being 3780 square feet, Floor Plan
B being 3115 square feet, and Floor Plan C being 7090 square feet.
John stated that the concession stands and rest rooms are the major cost and that these will
remain the same square footage in each floor plan.
Most of the meeting consisted of discussions on the pros and cons of each floor plan regarding
the amount of square footage of open space. Floor Plan B was the facility that was chosen
by the Erickson Community Square Subcommittee to be the best. John Howard stated that
along with this concept possible uses of the building were discussed, which will be a major
part of the concept selected.
Jeff Moser asked if the drawings were modeled after an existing building sornewhere. Dave
Bechtold stated that he believes this is something that Chuck designed on his own.
Deanna Simpson noted that the rest rooms are similar to those at Jaycee Park and the
concession stand is comparable to the armory.
VI. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho, Chairperson, was present to give an update. Mike
stated that the Workshop was held Saturday, February 26, 1994, and a path of the trail was
laid out. We are trying to decide on the southwest entrance into Carrolls Woods, there is no
entrance right now, however, there is an easement off of where new houses are being built.
We are going to work out concept designs for the southwest access.
Mike stated that a motion was made at our meeting tonight to authorize city staff to proceed
with the building of the trail as presented on Saturday, February 26, 1994, with the Parks and
Recreation Committee. The trail is a slight deviation from the Master Plan. The trait proceeds
in from the southwest entrance continuing on the east, staying on top of the ridge continuing
down through the ditch which will have a culvert and then be filled in over the top of the
culvert and also have railings so as to appear as a bridge. It will then continue on to the
northeast across the existing trail and will be continuing on, hooking up to the existing
Halloween Trail. The target date for construction is near August. The trail will be constructed
of lime rock and will be 8 feet wide.
Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor, had maps available showing the original route and new, modified
route that the trail would take.
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Deanna stated that the trail deviates somewhat from the Master Plan because the original trail
would have went under water. She also stated that the trail generally foltows the same outline
of the Master Plan, it was just moved slightly to the north.
Mike stated Funds will be coming from the USPCI. Mike said a motion from the Parks and
Recreation Committee is needed to begin work on this traiL
Mike stated that the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee also would like to recruit an intern person
to help with the documentation for Carroils Woods, such as species of wildlife, herbicide issues
on buckthorn cutting, also help with maps and some paper work. They would like the Parks
and Recreation Committee to make a motion for this also.
MOTION by John Howard to request staff to go ahead and start development on the trail for
the southwest entrance as proposed to us tonight as soon as possible. SECONDED by Linda
Ladzun. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION by Tom Reller to approve use of an intern as the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee sees
fit. SECONDED by Dave Giliuson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Also, Mike requested, on behalf of the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee, that Scott Rynerson join
the committee and would like the Parks and Recreation Committee to make a motion.
MOTION by Linda Ladzun to have Scott Rynerson join the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee.
SECONDED by Dave Giliuson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
VII. BY-LAWS: Dave Bechtold stated that if a new Parks and Recreation Director were to be hired,
that the City Administrator does the hiring as approved by the City Council and that the Parks
and Recreation Committee does not have authorization to be involved in the selection and
interview process without the City Council's approvaL
Linda Ladzun asked if this matter was discussed with the City Attorney. Dave Bechtold stated
that he discussed it with his supervisor and administration.
John Howard stated that the Parks and Recreation Committee was part of the process at one
time however, maybe due to lack of consideration it was taken out of the By-Laws.
Discussions followed with John Howard requesting that we "table" this issue and come back
to it at next month's meeting.
Dave Bechtold will check into this further and see what process needs to be followed to have
the By-Law changed. He will also research to see what the wording was in the past that
related to this request by the Committee.
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I. BIRGER POND/CARROLLS WOODS GRANT PROPOSALS: Dave Bechtold gave an overview of
each land acquisition, where they are located, and how much the grants are fo.
Tom Reller stated, regarding the Birger Pond site, that part of the land is in the City of Apple
Valley, it would be the west side. Dave Bechtold responded by stating that the City of Apple
Valley is not taking any action in this.
Michael Eliason asked if we will have to pay taxes to the City of Apple Valley. Dave Bechtold
stated that we would not pay taxes to the City of Apple Valley. Dave also stated that the
Utility Department is addressing issues of pumping storm water into Apple Valley. John
Howard asked if this would stay a Utility Department problem and not fall under us. Dave
Bechtold stated that all uses of the area will be discussed by many departments and this will
include the management and financial aspects of the site in a joint venture.
MOTION by Jeff Moser to support the grant applications for the land acquisitions of Birger
Pond and Prairie Area North of Carrolls Woods. SECONDED by Tom Reller. Ayes: 6
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Dave Bechtold finished by saying that the grant applications are due by March 15, 1994, and
that the deadline is August 1, 1994. The grant offices will review the applications with us
during that time.
11.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
Michael Eliason: None.
Jeff Moser: None.
Tom Reller. None.
Dave Giliuson: None.
Linda Ladzun gave an update on the Community Center, everything is on hold. May be taking
possession sometime next month. Due to the delays, some banquets had to be cancelled.
Linda responded to concerns regarding indoor skating fees and the possibility of the Parks and
Recreation Department still offering outdoor skating lessons. Linda stated that she does not
remember being involved with setting fees and feels it is a manager's decision to set the fees.
The Community Center feels that it would not be a problem or competitive to have outdoor
skating again. Dave Bechtold stated the Parks and Recreation Department will go back and
address the issue for next year with the Community Center and identify who would conduct
the lessons and what types would be held.
Linda would like to step down from the Erickson Community Square Committee and leave an
opening for one of the two new committee members.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 79, 1994
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mike Eliason, Dave Giliuson, Linda Ladzun,Jeff Moser,Jerry Puciaty,Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Topitzhofer, Parks & Recreation and Community Center Director; Lisa Jost,
Recreation and Community Center Manager; Nancy Schrupp, Parks and Recreation Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Howard
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Dave Giliuson, Chairperson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 21, 1994, MINUTES:
MOTION by Jeff Moser to accept the minutes of the November 21, 1994, meeting. - SECOND by
Mike Eliason. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None
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I.. ... RAAA.UPDATE: RAAA representatives were not present at the meeting. Lisa Jost handed out
the RAAA Winter Newsletter, the 1995 Board of Directors list and copies of the Authorization
to Release Information form and the Parent/Guardian Code of Conduct form to the Parks and
Recreation Committee members. Lisa Jost explained that the Code of Conduct form in general
is to promote a positive environment, good sportsmanship and proper use of property.
II.CARROLLS WOOQS UPDATE: Carrolls Woods Sub-committee did not have a meeting on
December 19, 1994. Jim Topitzhofer commented that progress on the kiosk signs and holders
for trail maps for the main entrances in to Carrolls Woods has been held up due to the Public
Works Department re-organizing. Jim commented that the goal is to get those signs completed
by the next Parks and Recreation Regular Committee Meeting.
III. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE UPDATE: Jeff Moser commented that the construction of
the building is on hold due to the storm sewer project which needs council approvaL. Jeff
commented that the Knights of Columbus donated 51000.
IV. WENSMANN 7TH ADDITION: Jim Topitzhofer commented that he had met with
representatives from Wensmann and a revised concept plan has been significantly changed to
accommodate the concerns of the Parks and Recreation Committee. Jim explained that
Wensmann proposes to lower the density of the project by adding 12 single family units and
subtracting 27 townhome dwellings. The new breakdown would be 31 single family units and
50 townhome units totalling 81 dwellings instead of 96 dwellings.
Jim commented that the park increased to 2 acres and this does not include the small section
of the adjoining park located in Wensmann 6th Addition. Also, this park does not connect to
Highway 42.
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The Parks and Recreation Committee overall had a good feeling about this revised plan. Dave
Giliuson recommended tabling a motion until park dedication and cash dedication for this land
could be discussed at the next Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting.
V. SHANNON MEADOWS ADDITION: Jim Topitzhofer commented that the developers of the
Strese/Burkalter property have changed their plans and have proposed greater density. The
Planning Commission did not approve the revised concept plan and the project is now on hold
until further notice.
VI. SUB-COMMITTEE SELECTION POLICY: Jim Topitzhofer commented that corrections and
additions requested were made to the policy and a copy was sent to each sub-committee
chairperson. Jim commented that a correction was needed for the number of inembers, which
the policy currently only shows five members and should show seven. Due to the staggering
terms, Jim requested the Parks and Recreation Committee members to decide where the final
two should be placed.
The Parks and Recreation Committee members agreed on two members to serve three year
terms, three mem:bers to serve two terms, and two members to serve one year terms.
Committee members agreed that the City Council would have the final approval on the seven
recommended candidates for each of the sub-committees.
Discussions were held on when to begin accepting and reviewing applications and the selection
process. Committee members agreed to address the issue for further discussion at the next
regular committee meeting in January.
Dave Giliuson also noted that the next meeting would be on January 16, 1995, which is Martin
Luther King Day. Committee members agreed to change the regular meeting date to
January 23, 1995.
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I.TREE CITY USA RENEWAL: Jim Topitzhofer commented that Lacelle Cordes completed the
recertification as a distinguished Tree City, USA. The Tree City, USA is an award given to
those cities who depict an honest and active program to promote the protection of our natural
habitat and of our trees.
Jerry Puciaty commented on the city tree ordinance. He would like to see a tree replacement
ordinance developed to prevent developers from "land clearing". Jerry commented that he does
not want the Parks and Recreation Committee to be forced to use park dedication or land
dedication as a means to save a stand of trees.
Jim Topitzhofer will gather the information and respond to this request at the next regular
meeting.
I1.CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
JERRY PUCIATY: None
JEFF MOSER: None
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TOM RELLER: None
DAVE GILIUSON: None
LINDA LADZUN thanked staff for assistance with the Share the Spirit event.
MIKE ELIASON complimented staff who worked at the Public Skating during the Share the Spirit
event.
Mike commented that he would like to keep in mind another athletic complex for the future.
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Jim Topitzhofer commented that the Share the Spirit event gave the
Rosemount Community Center great exposure and he complimented the committee for doing
a nice job preparing for this event.
Jim commented that he and Dave Giliuson were invited to attend the Dakota County Parks and
Recreation meeting. Neither were able to attend however, they did forward ideas to the
committee regarding snowmobiling in Lebanon Park and whether to allow it or not. Jim
commented that he feels there should be no snowmobiling allowed and that cross country
skiing should be promoted more. Dave Giliuson commented that the are around Lebanon Park
has become well populated now and he feels there should be no snowmobiling allowed as well.
Jim commented that members of Snowtoppers are planning to attend the January meeting and
the agenda item would be to discuss the snowmobiling ordinance. Jim explained that he is not
aware of what the issues pertain to however, he will include the information in the next packet.
Jim commented that the Parks and Recreation Committee Workshop meeting went well. Jim
explained that four scenarios were developed on park dedication. These four scenarios will be
discussed at the next Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting and one will be chosen and
presented at the next Parks and Recreation Regular Committee meeting for approval.
The next Parks and Recreation Workshop meeting will be held January 5, 1995, at 7:30 p.m.
The next Parks and Recreation Regular Committee meeting will be held on January 23, 1995,
at 7:30 p.m. instead of on January 16, 1995, as this is Martin Luther King Day, which is a
National Holiday.
ADJOI RNMENT: MOTlON by Mike Eliason to adjourn the meeting at 9 p.m. SECOND by Linda
Ladzun: Ayes: 6 Nays:-0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Schrupp
Recording Secretary