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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGULAR MEETING OF AIIGIIST 16, 1993
MBMBLRS PRESI NT: Deanna Sim son Linda Ladzun, Scott Rynerson, TomP .
Reller, 1]a e Giliuson, John Howard
BTAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick
Cook, Parks Supervisor; Mark Joosten, Parks Department; Lisa Jost,
Assistant Director Parks and Recreation
MEMBLRS ABSENT: 3erry Pu ia y
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7;35 p.m. by
chairman, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE JIILY 19, 1993 MINUTEB: MOTION by Dave Giliuson to
accept the. minutes of the July 19, 1993 meeting as written. SECOND
by Scott Rynerson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: Cathy Busho extended her appreciation to the Parks
and Recreation staff for their help and efforts during Leprechaun
Days. Cathy listed the recreation events coordinated by Jane
Merilman tha a e ran during Lep eehaun Days and floted othe areas
city staff helped out during the city celebration, City staff and
community volunteers did a good job of making the 4 day celebration
a success. Dave Bechtold asked who will be the 1994 Leprechaun
Days chairperson. No one has been appointed to this position at
this time. Cathy Busho was the 1993 Leprechaun Days chairperson.
I. RAAA UPDATE: Di,rector Dave Bechto.d stated the annual gol.f
tournament at Valleywood Golf Course was held on August 6, 1993 .
There were 84 entries.
RAAA board members will be involved in the process of setting fee
structures and fee policy for charging non-resident fees.
Rich Lonnquist wanted to come to commend the staff for thei.r
efforts, but will do it at a different time.
Dave Giliuson gave his appreciation to the parks staff for all of
their help in the rainy weather and for a job well done during the
first annual RAAA baseball tournament on July 31 through Auqust 1
for the Class B teams. Coaches complimented the facility. It was
a very successful weekend and again, thanks to the crew.
II. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was selected to be the
president of the Carrolls Woods subcommittee, and Loretta Loesch is
the secretary.
Dave Giliuson reviewed an itemized list of expenditures totaling
the amount o $15,000.00: 1) Trail groomer to groom both
woodchips and lime rock, $6,563.59; 2) 300 tons of limestone/rock
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1993) , $1,725.00; 3) 300 tons of limestone/rock earmarked for
future work, $1,725.Q0; 4)2 brush cutters, $1,U00.00; 5)
Herbicide application(s) , $50.00; 6) Encumber balance of funds and
earmark for expenses such as timbers, part-time wages, rental
equipment, signage, etc. , $3,936.41.
Much discussion followed regarding the particular area of the trail
starting from the hockey rinks and asphalt trail and goes south and
then curves west (first part of the Halloween Trail) to the second
major junction on the trail. Dan Belting stated this area of the
trail system is a deviation from the concept of the master plan.
The master plan states that this trail should be eliminated because
of steep grade, etc. The "etc. " could mean the trail is too soft.
Maintenance vehicles have gotten stuck in this trail.
Discussion followed that the location at which the lime rock would
stop gives the flexibility of the trail either continuing west or
in another direction (north/northeast) which follows the master
plan concept. Either direetion would allow trail to develop and
connect with the S.E. access point to the Carrollton Development.
Trail work with lime stone is needed for present and future
construction and general maintenance. The trail would begin at the
hockey rink area to the present devils pit area.
The subcommittee needs to look at signage.
Issues discussed about the upgrade of the mentioned trail section
follows: 1) It was understood that' support of why the concept in
the master plan would be deviated from needs to be identified. It
seems to be the biggest trouble spot in the whole system. The
section would need to be used for maintenance vehicles. 2) Rick
Cook and Dan Belting said if the trail is changed from woodchips to
lime rock that 4' to 6 ' of the woodchip trail has to be taken out.
Rick received a quote of $14, 000 for all of the halloween trail.
The subcommittee decided it was too much and came up with only
doing a part of the trail. 3) Loretta Loesch stated that the
people didn't want a thoroughfare and we still can curve the trail
if need be. 4) An 8' lime rock trail would be put in. 5) Links
off of this sectian could be discussed and evaluated at a later
date.
Tom Reller MOTIONED to maintain the existing trail with lime rock
from the hockey rink to the present devils pit. John Howard
SECONDED the motion. Ayes:6. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Dan Belting said if we could get the Tree Trust crew to help there
could be a lot done (for less money) . The Tree Trust can rake out
the lime rock. City staff would need to pile limestone in sections
of the trail. Upon approval of the Parks and Recreation Committee,
the proposed project (with plan) would be presented at the
September 7th City Council Meeting. The project would be done this
year if possible.
Dave Giliuson- made the MOTION that we take the request to the City
Council; the $15,000.00 to be used for Carrolls Woods as itemized
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ifrom encumbered account #202-24415 to be used for the trail project
in Carrolls Wood. Scott Rynerson SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6.
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRILD.
Tom Reller MOTIONED to support the alterations of the master parks
concept plan. S COND by Scott Rynerson. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0.
MOTYON CARRIBD.
Discussion followed confirming that this request was vaiid because
of the need for maintenance vehicles to be on the trail, need a
trail to pass the lowland area when it is developed, and the
stopping point still allows the trail to go west or north of which
the latter follows the master plan.
III. WORRSHOP MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 2, 1993: Scott Rynerson
suggested reviewing the Parks Master Plan. Director Dave Bechtold
commented that an evaluation of the master plan can take place at
the next meeting. The topic will be to organize and develop a
process to do the evaluating.
I. PARR DEDICATION CARLSON PROPBRTIEB: This area is by McDonalds
south of County Road 42. A concept site plan was distributed.
Director Dave Bechtold stated that discussion of the commercial
park dedication fee needed to take place. Scott inquired what the
anticipated (cash) park dedication would be.Director Dave
Bechtold said the formula is industrial with an estimat d acreage
of 9. 094 (acres) . 5 X total land of development at $22, 000.00 per
acre.
Deanna Simpson MOTIONED to recommend cash as park dedication in the
Carlson development property. (Discussion referred that
consideration may want to be given for overhead passes. ) Trail
aspects within the development is the developers responsibility.
Linda Ladzun SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
II. PARR DEDICATION RERRY JOHNSON PROPERTIEB: Discussion took
place in reviewing the park dedication for this commercial
dev lopment. Scott Rynerson asked how the cash dedication would
correspond with the land they (Kerry Johnson) needs. The land Mr.
Johnson needs to provide to allow for his proposal to continue
should not be a part of the park dedication. This refers to the
land and dollars needed to put in the trails, landscaping, and
parking areas on the north of his property. This was agreed to be
done from the onset of this proposed project. The park dedication
should be considered as a separate item from this required land
and/or the development costs of present park land to allow his
proposal to work.
John Howard made the MOTION that we accept the cash dedication on
the Kerry Johnson property. Linda Ladzun 88CONDED the motion.
Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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III. PARR DEDICATION CMC PROPERTIEB: Director Dave Bechtold said
no detailed plan was on the table, only a similar concept plan as
they presented to us some time ago. The developer has gone along
with the trail loops to 145th Street to County Road 42 and along
Biscayne Avenue at the developers e cpense. The developer agrees
that the park will be a mini-park and will be developed (or
designed) on a semi-passive to passive concept.
Director Dave Bechtold said the Developer is proposing to develop
the industrial/commercial area as a mini-mall which is in the
southwest corner of the property. Land has to be specifically
identified for this purpose.
Linda Ladzun MOTIONED to aceept cash dedication for the
industrial/commercial part of the CMC property only.Scott
Rynerson SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
IV. PARR DEDICATION BOSINE88 PARR: Director Dave Bechtold
explained that there are plans to complete the Business Park in
phases. Phase I is 80 acres south of County Road 42 as shown on
the map distributed to Parks and Recreation committee members.
Director Dave Bechtold commented that it was preferred to take cash
dedication in Phase T of the industriaifeommercial development.
Director Dave Bechtold commented that there were some questions
regarding holding pond issues, but felt these ponds could be used
for public use. Internal walkways and bike paths would be a part
of the developers design plans.
Cathy Busho of the Planning commission stated that we need to
consider the open space in this business park, but it does seem
appropriate that the first phase could take place with cash
dedication. Next phases would consider the non-park open spaces in
greater detail in conjunction with utility ponding, etc.
Scott Rynerson MOTIONED to accept cash dedication for Phase I of
the Business Park for park dedication. Dave Giliuson SECONDED the
motion. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. Mf)TION CARRIED.
V. CHAIRPFRSONB REPORT:
SCOTT RYNERSON - Inquired why "draft" copies were being sent.
Director Dave Bechtold said the minutes are considered "drafts"
until they are officially approved and then they should be
delivered with the next meetings agenda and information.
JOHN HOWARD: Parks and Recreation Committee members are invited to
work at the Renaissance Festival. The Chamber of Commerce took a
booth to raise money for Erickson Community Square. The costumes
are provided. Dates available over Labor Day weekend. Ca11 John
if interested.
LINDA LADZIIN: Community Center Commission has some fee schedules
planned. Working on the Auditorium now, which will be more
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difficult to book. Student representative, John Ryan, will be
replaced. John is going to college and can no longer serve on the
commission.
DEANNA SIMPSON: Edging was purchased and placed in the community
garden. Edging was put in Merrills flower bed which helped spruce
it up and will, hopefully, make maintenance a little easier. The
path from the Arbor to 145th Street needs to be straightened. May
need help from city staff to remove sod and moving some of the
trail east.
Deanna, Gerry Hill, John and Ann Loch dug a trench from Corcoran's
fence to the city hall parking lot. The trench was filled with 6
ml. poly and rock. The first rain the trench worked well. The
next heavy rain the rock trench didn't work quite as well.
ioo.00,
Discussion took place about possible signage asking people not to
pick the flowers or some way to discourage people from picking
flowers for the personal enjoyment. Nothing was confirmed whether
a sign would be put in. This could possibly take place with park
sign when it is designed along with other park signs.
TOM RELLER: None.
DAVE GILIOSON: None.
VI. DIRECTOR'8 REPORT: Parks and Recreation Committee timesheets
were distributed. Director Dave Bechtold requested that timesheets
be returned by Friday, August 20, 1993 .
Picnic table shelter locations were discussed. 2 posted
table/shelters will be installed at Winds Crossing, Schwarz Pond,
and Twin Puddles Parks this fall. Committee members agreed to
install a picnic table/shelter at Jaycee park if an appropriate
location could be chosen.Each 2 posted table/shelter is
approximately $1, 000.00.
ADJOURNMBNT: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to adjourn the meeting at 9:07
p.m. Tom Reller SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
Respectfully Submitted,
Lisa Jost, Assistant Director Parks and Recreation
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FROM: DAVID J. BECHTOLD, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: JULY 14, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF JULY 19, 1993
DATE: JIILY 19, 1993
PLACE: JAYCEE PARR SHELTER
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA:
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUT S OF TH JtTNE 21, 1993 MEETING
IV. AUDIENCE INPtTT'
OLD BIISINESS:
I. RAP,A UPD ITE
I I. CARROLLS WOODS' UPIJATE
III. SUMMARY FRUM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMITTEE
IV. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR AUGUST 5, _1993
V. PARK MAINTENANCE / CONSTRUCTIQN STATUS REPORT
VI. UTILITY COMMISSION MEMBER FQR ERIGKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE
NEW BUSINESS:
I. COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE
II. BUDGET DISCUSSION
III. FEE(S) COMMITTEE
IV. CARROLLTON ADDITION CONCERNS
V. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
VI. DIRECTOR S REPORT
VII. ADJOURNMENT
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGULAR MEETING OF ULY 19. 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Deanna Simpson, Scott Rynerson, Tom Reller, Jerry Puciaty, Linda Ladzun,
Dave Giliuson
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor;
Lisa Jost, Assistant Director Parks and Recreation; Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Howard
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:45 p.m. by chairman, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 21. 1993 MINUTES: MOTION by Dave Giliuson to accept the minutes of
the June 21, 1993 meeting as written. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
I. RAAA UPDATE: Dave spoke for Tom Neumann in his absence. He stated that all was going well,
and that the RAAA Board was discussing developing a package to show their appreciation for the
volunteers with the program and to use as an incentive for other volunteers to join. There is a need
for more volunteers because of the problem of"burn out" for the core group of parents and volunteers
currently with the program. The committee will be kept updated as this package develops.
II. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: At the meeting earlier in the evening Rick had supplied videos of
both the trail groomer and the brush hog for the committee members to see. After viewing the tapes
it was decided to purchase the trail groomer at this time. Mike Busho will be contacting the U.S.P.C.I.
to request possible fundirtg for the trail groomer. Other projects planned are to place lime rock along
the trails in the park, purchasing at least two brush cutters and possibly budgeting in two part time
positions for people to work on this problem. The committee will be working on putting together a
package by the August Parks and Recreation Committee meeting to present to the City Council to
request a portion of the S 15,000.00 the subcommittee is planning to request from an encumbered CIP
account of Parks and Recreation.
III. SUMMARY ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARf COMMITTEE: Deanna referred to and briefly
highlighted the minutes of the last Erickson Community Square Subcommittee meeting that was
enclosed with the executive summaries in each members packet. She informed the committee
members that the U.S.P.C.1. responded to her request for funds to help with grading of Erickson Park
with a 55,000.00 grant.
Dave expanded on the process that needs to take place in order to meet the committees goal of
building the Erickson Square shelter some time in the next year. He stated that a good starting point
would be to meet with the architects to develop some estimates on costs, time schedules, etc. to
present to the City CounciL
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IV. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR AUGUST 5, 1993: After a brief discussion of possible topics to be
discussed at the August workshop meeting it was decided with a vote of 6 ayes and 0 nays to eancel
the August workshop and meet next in September on the regular meeting date.
V. PARK MAINTENANCE/CONSTRUCTION STATUS REPORT: Rick reported that the Tree Trust group
had been here and worked on several projects in the parks such as putting timber around play areas,
etc. They were very cooperative and easy to work with. They are looking forward to having them
back again next year. Projects were in Biscayne Park, Winds Park, and Kidder Park.
VI. UTILITY COMMISSION MEMBER FOR ERICKSON COMMUNITY SaUARE: The letter from Scott
Rynerson to the Utility Commission requesting that one of their members be chosen to attend Erickson
Community Square subcommittee meetings helped put the subject on the agenda for the Utility
Commission last meeting. Unfortunately, due to the fact that not all of the members were able to be
presen# at that meeting, the item was tabled for a full committee vote at their next meeting.
I. COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE: Jim Topitzhofer is in the process of working with the Community
Center Committee members to establish goals and priorities at this time. They feel that the banquet
area has some items that need to be addressed and decided at this point. Another topic in the starting
stages are job descriptions.
Due to Jim's considerable background and past experience he is able to supply some preliminary
policies that can be tailored to fit tfie needs of Rosemount's Community Center. Some of the policies
and fee structure could be used when formulating such policies and fees for Parks and Recreation.
Dave stated that there has been goad communication betwesn Jim and himseff, and that Jim is open
to the needs of the separate departments.
A software package is being looked at to use for the scheduling of the facility. Jim will be in charge
of scheduling the facility. Programming is also beir g discussed at this time. At the present time Lisa
Jost will continue doing the programming. A request for another full time programmer and additional
secretarial assistant is being made through the 1994 budget process because of the present work load
and added work load of 1994 programming.
IL BUDGET DISCUSSION: Dave supplied the committee members with the following handouts for
their information: "Play Equipment General Summary/S#atus Report", "CIP Project Worksheet", and
Rosemount Parks Facility/Building Inventory".
Dave started by saying that on figuring the budget he was told that he should not raise operating costs
more than 396 in 1994. This amounts to an approximate 52,700.00 budget increase for the Parks and
Recreat+on Department. n figuring the budget for the revenue accounts approximately $101,000.00
for 1994 were used to offset the expenses to revenues.
On referring to the copy of the budget sent in each members packets he stated that the salaries for
1993 haven't been set yet and that the 1994 salaries could not be detefmined until that is
accomplished. That is why this area is not completed on the budget. As mentioned, Dave is
requesting a programmer position be added to the budget for 1994 along with a 33 hour secretarial
position.
Each committee member will be paid 535.00 for each meeting they attend, including thase in which
they attend to represent the Parks and Recreation Committee. This includes workshop meeting. This
raises the budget from 53,500.00 set aside for this to S10,OOQ.00 for 1994.
Scott wondered why the expenses for brochures and papers went from S 1,000.00 in 1993 up to
511,000.00 in 1994. Dave explained that the funds were received from the administration budget,
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which paid for newspaper costs in the past. Due to changes in this process for 1994 the funds were
transferred back into the Parks and Recreation accounts to onee again publish brochures for the Parks
and Recreation operations and programs.
Dave then brought the members attention to several projects noted in the CIP worksheet and briefly
discussed the plans for each project spelled out in 1993. The projects stressed for 1994 are to
continue adding to and repairing playgrounds and trails.
III. FEEFSI'COMMiTTEE: Dave discussed with the Parks and Recreation Committee the possibility of
nominating two of their members to meet with various organizations to help establish policies regarding
such things as fee structures and/or surcharges for users of Rosemount recreational facilities. The
committee would also discuss how to raise revenue to help pay for the positions needed such as the
programmer and part time secretary. Jerry Puciaty volunteered to serve on the committee and Linda
Ladzun agreed to join that committee after being asked if she would be interested.
The Rosemount Softball Association and RAAA have been contacted and would be interested in giving
input. They have both voiced support for the need to set fees and raise revenues to help with
department ope ations.
After discussing the issue a MOTION was made by Scott Rynerson to appoint Jerry Puciaty and Linda
Ladzun to meet with representatives of RAAA, Rosemount Softball Association, and Department staff
to formulate policies relating to fees for the Parks and Recreation Department. SECOND by Deanna
Simpson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
IV. CARROLLTON ADDITION CONCERNS: Dave stated that a resident of the new Carrollton Addition
had contacted him stating she represented several of the citizens of that area. They had some
questions regarding the development of a park that the realtor had informed them would be built in
their "backyard" in the near future. Dave stated he explained the status regarding the park and the
trail system to the woman and she seemed accepting of this. Since this is the same area in which the
RAP group is concerned about developing a park, and that issue is currently being handled Dave asked
the committee members if they would consider inviting the residents of the Carrollton Addition to sit
in on the RAP meetings. It was decided to keep these two items separate issues at this time. The
development of trails along Dodd from Shannon Parkway wece again discussed. Dave stated that there
have been funds of $45,000 set aside for this project in the CIP account for a trail from Shannon
Parkway to Diamond Path. Those funds could possibly be requested for the trail section from Shannon
Parkway to Chippendale.
A memo from City Council member Sheila Klassen to Lisa Freese, City Planner; and Dave Bechtold,
Dir ctor of Parks and Recreation was brought to the attention of the committee members. The memo
requested reconsidering the requirements for park/open space for multi-family housing currently used.
She stated that she would like to see landscaping requirements to allow for more "green space" for
these projects. Sheila has been working with the committee members and the RAP groups on RAPs
behalf. She will be informed of the August 4, 1993 meeting that has been scheduled with the RAP
group.
V. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
SCOTT RYNERSON - None.
JERRY PUCIATY -Wondering if the areas under the swings at Camfield could be filled in. It has been
m ddy quite a bit this summer under the swing area. He also inquired on the status of the tree
ordinance. Dave informed him that it is still in progress. There are several departments that are
effeeted and they would all like to give input on the ordinance which is taking some time.
LINDA LADZUN - None.
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DAVE GILIUSON - None.
DEANNA SIMPSON - Corcoran area has been cleaned up and loaks much better, especially from the
Community Garden area. Dave stated he is working with the owners to pave and curb the parking lot
of the Corcoran area. Port Authority staff member, John Miller, is recommending that the Port
Authority pay 75°6 of the project and that the prop rty owner would then pay 25% of the costs.
TOM RELLER - None.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Dave mentioned that the a thor of an article relating to trail standards sent in
the packets, Jeff Schoenbauer, was the person selected to work on the trail system and Parks Master
Plan for Rosemount. He has worked on the Master Plan for the nearby communities of Inver Grove
Heights and Lino Lakes also. He now is a member of a national standards committee and has taken
the leadership role in the trails areas.
Dave reminded the members that their project proposals should be oriented to include staffing and
funding in order to be completed and kept on line.
Dave reminded the committee of a National Riverfront meeting that Lisa Freese sent out a memo to
invite them to attend. The date is August 10, 1993.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Scott Rynerson to adjourn the mesting. SECOND by Linda Ladzun.
Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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T0 : PARKS & RECREA7T0! COMMI7TEE MEMB RS
FROM: DAVID .7 . BECHTOLD , pIf2EC70R OF' PARKS & RECREA7ION
DATE JUNE 16 , 1993
RE: PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETSNG OF JUNE 21 , 1993
DATE: JUNE 1 , 1993
PLACE: ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL
TIME: 7:30 P .M.
AGENDA'
I . CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II . ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III . APPROVE MINUTES OF' THE MAY 17 , 1993 MEETING
IV . AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BUSINESS:
I . RAAA UPDATE
II . SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF JUNE 3 , 1993
III , CRRROLLS WOODS UPDATE
IV . SUMMARY FROM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMIT'7EE
V . WORK SHOP MEETING FOR JULY 1 , 1993
VI , JAYGEE PARK STATUS REPORT
NEW BUSINESS
I . UTTLITY COMMISSION MEMBER FOR ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE
II . COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE
III . CHAIRPERSON 'S REPORT
IV . DIRECTOR 'S REPORT
IV . ADJOURNMENT
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGUTAR MEETING OF JUNE 21, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Linda Ladzun, John Howard, Scott Rynerson, Tom Reller, Dave Giliuson
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Directory Parks and Recreation Department; Rick Cook, Parks
Supervisor; Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Puciaty, Deanna Simpson
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:35 p.m. by chairman, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE MAY 17, 1993 MIMUTES: MOTION by Scott Rynerson to accept the minutes of
the May 17, 1993 meeting as written. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 4 Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
I. RAAA UPDATE: Dave Giliuson reported that the RAAA baseball tournament held at Erickson Field
on June 18, 19, and 20 went well considering the weather conditions. There were a total of 36 teams
participating. The soccer program will begin in mid-July, and football will start up again in the fall.
II. SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF JUNE 3, 1993: Scott Rynerson felt that the meeting set a
strong foundation for strengthening the exchange of information between departments. He felt that
the role of the Parks and Recreation Department in the communication between departments had been
defined and the process seemed logical and that good communication is taking place.
Dave stated that Deanna Simpson had brought up a good point at the last workshop meeting regarding
each member of the Park Board setting personal goals regarding what they would like to see
accomplished by the committee; as well as committee goals. Linda Ladzun was not at the workshop
meeting and wanted to state that her personal goal for the committee was to ensure that the park
areas were a safe place for children to go ta
111. CARROLIS WOODS UPDATE: There has not been a meeting in June. The committee would like
to meet in July at the Jaycee Park shelter at 6:30 p.m. before the next Parks and Recreation
committee meeting.
IV. SUMMARY FROM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SaUARE MEETING: Kerry Johnson appeared before
the Erickson Square Committee to clarify some problems in regards to Erickson park and his proposed
office development on the site of Repairs, Inc. Kerry upda#ed the committee on design concepts and
possible changes that could be made to accommodate the wishes of the Parks and Recreation
Department and the Erickson Community Square Committee. He and the Erickson Community Square
Committee are working well together on the coordination of their projects.Deanna Simpson has drafted
a letter to the USPCI committee requesting a donation toward grading in Erickson Community Square.
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V. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR JULY 1, 1993: After a short discussion it was decided not to hold a
meeting in July due to the holiday weekend that follows the regutar meeting date. A MOTION was
made by Scatt Rynerson to skip the July workshop meeting due to the holiday weekend. SECOND by
John Howard. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
YI. JAYCEE PARK STATUS REPORT: The work on the installation of the irrigatian and the trails has
started, but now have been delayed due to the rain we have been getting in the recent weeks.
The lighting is in along the trails etc. The grant for trees has been approved, but the money has not
been received as of this date because the Federal government has not released the funds. Some other
trees have been planted and Dave invited the committee members to go to the park and view the new
trees and construction on the site.
Dave had attended the last Rosemount Jaycee's rneeting and updated them on the progress of the
shelter. He will also be attending the July meeting and give a short tour of the shelter and park area
for Jaycee members. They were very excited about the progress that has been made and are anxious
to have the shelter opened for use to the community.
J. UTILITY COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR ERICKSON COMMUNITY SaUARE COMMITTEE: At a
previous Parks and Recreation committee meeting it was expressed that a member of the Utility
Commission serving on the Erickson Community Square committee would be an asset to that
committee. Dave discussed this with Joe Walsh of the Utility Commission and he suggested the Parks
and Recreation committee members formally ask the Utility Commission to appoint a member to the
Erickson Square committee. A MOTION was made by Scott Rynerson that the chairperson of the
Parks and Recreation committee send a letter to the Utility Commission to request that one of their
members be selected to serve on the .Erickson.Community Square Committee. SECOND hy Joha
Howard. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
II. COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE: Dave informed the committee members that Jim Topitzhofer has
started as the new Community Center Manager. He also discussed some of Jim's plans for the center
at this point. It had been previously decided to leave the staffing of the Parks and Recreatian
Department as it is at the present time and keep the community center staff separate. However, if
there is a need for the Parks and Rec staff to become more invofved in the comrrrunity center it would
be recommended to add a programmer and a half-time secretary. Dave has requested that Jim
Topitzhofer attend a Parks and Recreation committee soon to meet tMe staff members when his
schedule can be arranged during this busy time of getting things ready for the armory.
At the present time the Parks and Recreation Department would have priority in scheduling events at
the Community Center.
Linda ladzun, the Parks and Recreation committees appointee to the Armory Committee, informed the
members that the first Community Center meeting will be held on Thursday, June 24, 1993.
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I11. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
DAVE GILIUSON: None.
TOM RELLER: Questioned Loretta Loesch, a member of the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee who was
seated in the audience, on how Carrotls Woods is looking after the eutting of buckthorn and application
of Tordon in the test area. Loretta stated that the woods look great in that area. There is good
undergrowth of wildflowers, etc. with no signs of buckthorn where the clearing and herbicide
application took place.
SCOTT RYNERSON: None.
JOHN HOWARD: Questioned Tom Reller on the progress of obtaining bluebird houses. Tom stated
he hasn't had time to look into this yet.
LINDA LADZUN: None.
IV. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Dave updated the committee members on their progress with the RAP
group. He has obtained a census of the area in question from the school district and talked with Bud
Osmundson on studies that were done on the c osswalks on Shannon Parkway and Dodd. Bud stated
that these areas were studied and#ound to be safe crossings. ave asked Scott if he would be
available on Thursday, June 24, 1993 to meet with the RAP group to go over their list of needs. They
wifl look at what the city has to offer at the present time, and how the needs that RAP will list could
possibly be met now. Dave suggested that a possible partial solution to the problem would be to build
the planned trails north of Dodd Blvd before the area is developed instead of waiting for additional
homes.
Dave stated that the staff is doing well keeping up with maintenance considering the weather
conditions in the past weeks.
The committee members also thanked Rick and his crew for a job well done.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Dave Giliuson to adjourn the meeting. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes:
5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. The meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Respectfutly submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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TO: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FROM: DAVID J. BECHTOLD, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: MAY 13, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 17, 1993
DATE: MAY 17, 1993
PLACE:ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
A(ENDA:
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 19, 1993 MEETING
IV. AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BIISINE88:
I. RAAA UPDATE
II. SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF MAY 6, 1993
III. SUMMARY FROM CARROLLS WOODS COMMITTEE
IV. SUMMARY FROM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMITTEE
V. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR JUNE 3, 1993
VI. SUMMER BROCHURE AND PROGRAM iTPDATE
VII. SUMMARY OF RAP MEETING OF MAY 13, 1993
VIII. JAYCEE PARK STATUS REPORT
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I. NORTHWEST ACCESS TO CARROLLS WOODS / SHANNON HILLS
II. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
IV. ADJOURNMENT
ARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 17, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Giliuson, Jerry Puciaty, Scott Rynerson, John Howard, Deanna Simpson, Linda
Ladzun
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Rosemount Parks and Recreation, Lisa Jost, Assistant Director
Rosemount Parks and Recreation, Kerry Budinger, Secretary Aide
MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Reller
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:35 p.m. by chairperson, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: OLD BUSINESS: IX. KELLEY PROPERTY UPDATE
APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 19, 1993 MINUTES: MOTION by Deanna Simpson to accept the minutes of the
April 19, 1993 meeting with the correction of the adjournment time of 9:05 p.m. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty.
Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. MINUTES APPROVED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
I.RAAA UPDATE
Tom was not able to be at the meeting to present an update. Dave Giliuson let the members know
that the sign up for football is coming up soon.
II.SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF MAY 6, 1993
Scott Rynerson and Dave Bechtold felt that of the subjects discussed at the meeting such as park vs.
holding ponds and the storm water system, the most important topic was ways in which to open the
flow of communication between committees, commissions and appropriate departments regarding
projects that are in the works or taking place. The idea of a check off system for each project was
introduced. The Planning Department would be the hub of the system. The check off system would
allow each department to review the project and have input. When the department feels they have
completed their involvement in the project they will then be "checked off."
It was decided that the Chairpersons of each committee and commission would be contacted to meet
and discuss ways to improve communication. A possible date for this meeting will be May 27, 1993.
Scott asked the Parks and Recreation Committee members to let him know if they had any questions
or concerns they would like him to bring to that meeting.
III. SUMMARY FROM CARROLLS WOODS COMMITTEE
Dave Giliuson stated that the buckthorn clearing and chipping went well on May 1 st. There were
approximately 15-20 people, 10 who represented RAHA. Having the second chipper helped the
process go smoother and more quickly. It also allowed the Parks staff who were chipping to have
breaks to rest. They were able to clear a large area of the woods. Deanna said it looks great and the
wildflowers are beginning to bloom now that there is more light in the area. The committee would like
to do another cutting and chipping in September or October of this year.
Dave informed the committee members that the housing development on the southwest corner of
Carrolls Woods may be starting sometime this summer or next fall, and the trail access to Carrolls
Woods will be taken care of with this development.
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Dave reite ated the process to be taken for requesting funds from the CIP funds. Dave will talk with
Rick Cook and Mark Joosten to get a possible list of things requested by the Carrolls Woods
committee.
The Rosemount Jaycees donated 5500.00 to the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee to be used as the
committee sees necessary. Linda Ladzun asked the subcommittee members present to let the Jaycees
know how the money was used. The Jaycees would appreciate knowing this. Scott Rynerson
suggested that any donations should be acknowledged through photos and publicity in the local papers.
Dave said he would make an effort to c o this.
The date for the next meeting has not been set yet.
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Dave moved this up on the agenda and addressed it in conjunction with the Carrolls Woods report.
He wanted to make the committee members aware that there is a large stand of red and white oak in
the proposed development on the northwest corner of Carrolls Woods. Bud Osmundson and Lisa
Freese are working with the developer of that area in order to save as many of those trees as possible.
One possibility tha# has been suggested is that the Parks Department may be able to take the land the
trees stand on for the park dedication in that phase of the development instead of money. Dave
requested a motion from the Parks and Recreation Committee members to support the fact that the
park dedication may be altered to help save the trees.
After considerable discussion regarding the fact that saving trees should not always be a park issue.
It was strongly felt that the Planning Commission needs to get a tree ordinance in place to save trees
as areas are developed. The committee members did not pass a motion to support the altering of the
park dedication for the development northwest Carrolls Woods, but Scott Rynerson made a MOTION
FOR RECOMMENDATION that city staff look into and implement a tree ordinance as soon as possible.
SECOND by Deanna Simpson. Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. MOTION PASSED.
IV. SUMMARY FROM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SO.UARE COMMITTEE
The next meeting is scheduled for May 18, 1993 at Big Daddy's Diner. Some of the subjects to be
discussed are the progress of Scott Gunhus on the landscaping plans for the square, contacting 49ers
about grading of the site, Tom Schultz hopefully wiU have preliminary plans for the amphitheater, and
get an update from Kose on obtaining clean fill from the Diffley road construction site.
Dave stated that he and Bud Osmundson are working on negotiations to obtain fill from the Diffley site.
He also updated the committee members that the development proposal presented by Kerry Johnson
at the last meeting has had a significant change made to it. Instead of requesting an additional 7 ft.
on the east of the Repairs fnc. property, they are now requesting an additional 22 ft. This could cut
dramatically into the amphitheater and shelter area. Bud Osmundson and the Planning Department are
working with the developer on this now. Dave has gone on record with Bud as saying this new change
may not work, and when the plans are set Kerry will need to return to and readdress the Parks and
Recreation Committee members on any changes. Scott Rynerson suggested that the Erickson
Community Square Committee should address the issue and bring it before the Parks and Recreation
Committee only after a decision has been made or if a decision cannot be made. The Erickson
Community Square Committee members were in agreement on this. A MOTION was made by Deanna
Simpson that Kerry Johnson give the Erickson Community Square Subcommittee a presentation when
a detailed concept plan is available. SECOND Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
MAY 17, 1993
PAGE 3
A donation of S7,OOQ.00 has been given to the Erickson Community Square Subcommittee from the
Rosemount Jaycees. it is currently held in a foundation that has been set up by the Northern Dakota
County Chamber. The committee will have to go through the Chamber in orde to access the funds.
Dave will be sending a thank you to the Rosemount Jaycees for the 5500.00 and 57,000.00
donations.
V. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR JUNE 3, 7993
After considerable discussion by the committee members it was decided that the next workshop
meeting will focus on the Parks and Recreation Committees appropriate role in the check off and how
to keep the lines of communication open to all commission, committees, and staff.
VI. SUMMER BROCHURE AND PROGRAM UPDATE
Lisa Jost referred to the brochure of summer programs and informed the eommittee members that it
had been distributed to Rosemount residents by Direct Market Media with the Rosemount Thisweek
paper. It will also be distributetl in the next week at Rosemount Schools, and Diamond Path
Elementary. She pointed out several additions to existing programs, such as additional parks or times.
Several of the committee members commented that the staff did a nice job on the brochure.
VII. SUMMARY OF RAP MEETING OF MAY 13, 1993
Dave Bechtold and Scott Rynerson met with Sheila Klassen and several members of th RAP Group
on thei request to develop a park near the Rosemount Greens area. Several issues addressed were
to discuss what facilities are already available, how they are currently being used by the RAP Group,
and what needs that RAP foresees fior the future. They diseussed ways in which to approach their
request in a logical process, and one of the first things that RAP was asked to do was to make a list
of their needs and how they are utilitizing the current facilities that are in place. Scott stressed that
the meeting was set simply to exchange ideas, and no planning has actually been started. The
committee members felt it is important to make RAP aware of what is currently available for sports
and recreation to Rosemount residents and how they can utilize them.
VIII. JAYCfE PARK STATUS REPORT
The shelter was completed approximately 6 weeks ago, but it is not in use yet because of construction
being completed around the shelter. The chairs and tables have been delivered. Linda has asked that
the Jaycees be notified that the chairs are in and available to be used.
The irrigation specs for the hockey rink and grassy area have been sent out.
The department hasn't had any notification regarding the tree grant yet, but some trees have been
p#anted.
Trail specs have been written and have been sent out. The lighting will be going in before the trails.
The concrete work around the shelter is done.
The landscaping will be built up with fifl and sod placed on top.
Hopefully, the park and shelter will be in full use by the end of July.
IX. KELLEY PROPERTY UPDATE
Scott requested an update on the feasibility study on obtaining a portion of the Kelley property for park
use. Dave is working with Ron Wasmund and the city attorney on this. Scott Rynerson expressed a
concern that the city attorney was involved this early in the process. Dave explained the process of
the Kelley land acquisitions and how they are all handled through one city representative; not on an
individual department basis. Dave said that he will work cooperatively with Ron Wasmund to begin
the process of negotiating land from the Kelley Trust.
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MAY 17, 1993
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II.CHAIRPERSONS REPORT
DAVE - None.
DEANNA - Had some suggestions for locations for the covered picnic tables ISchwarz Pond Park,
Carrolls Woods, Winds Crossingl, and asked if any of the committee members or staff had any
suggestions. The spigot in the community garden appears to be leaking, and Deanna asked that
someone look into that. She requested that the drip irrigation be removed from the rose bed, they are
not irrigating as well as they had hoped. She thanked the staff for helping with the plant sale and
signs,putting out tables and setting up the area. The sale brought in 5860.00 to the garden club some
of which will be used for the community garden.
SCOTT - None.
JOHN - Read excerpts from an article in the "Minnesota Malitia" regarding the guard getting more
involved in the community with staff and equipment. He questioned whether the guard is a source we
could utilize for large labor projects, or perhaps Ron o Bud could use them. A suggestion was made
to possibly have the guard look into regrading Schwarz Park to better suit the park uses and to
accommodate the armory site.
LINDA - The Armory Commission hasn't started yet, but she will keep the committee members
updated. She had received a phone call regarding the trail on the SW corner of Carrolls Woods
possibly being a road. She informed the caller that it was her understanding that it was a trail n t a
road.
JERRY - Suggested planning the summer outing in July to be held at Jaycee shelter. The committee
members all agreed.
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
A meeting will be held with the Tree Trust people on Tuesday, May 25, 1993 to discuss Tree Trust
volunteering on projects. The city needs to supply equipment and supplies. There will be no cost for
labor that is available from mid-June untit mid-August.
Scott thanked Dave for his time and efforts on extra projects, such as extra meetings for RAP, etc.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Jerry Puciaty to adjourn the meeting. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7.
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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FAX (612)42&5203 Mailing Address:
Edward B. McMenomy
P.O.Box 510,Rosemount,Minnesota 55068-0510 COUNCILMEMBERS
Sheila Klassen
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ADMINISTRATOR
Stephan Jilk
TO: PARKS AND RECREATI N COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FROM: DAVID J. HT , DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: SEPTEMBER 10, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 20, 1993
DATE: SEPTEMBER 20, 1993
PLACE: ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL
TIME: 7:30 PM
AGENDA:
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
il. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 16, 1993 MEETING
IV. AUDtENCE INPUT
OLD BUSINESS:
I. RAAA UPDATE (TOM NEUMANN)
II. STAFF RECOGNITION (RAAA BASEBALL-RICH LONNQUIST)
III. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE
IV. SUMMARY FROM ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMITTEE
V. WORKSHOP TOPIC FOR MEETING OF OCTOBER 7, 1993
VL DISCUSS RESULTS OF SEPTEMBER 2, 1993 WORKSHOP
VII. SUMMARY OF RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING
NEW BUSINESS:
I. CHILI AVENUE AND 145TH STREET TRAIL CHANGE
Ii. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
III. DIRECTOR`S REPORT
IV. ADJOURNMENT
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITfEE
REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 20, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Deanna Simpson, Linda Ladzun, Scott Rynerson, Dave Giliuson, John Howard,
Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Lisa Jost, Assistant Director Parks
and Recreation, Lacelle Cordes, Program Director; Kerry Budinger, Secretary
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Puciaty
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:40 p.m. by chairman, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 16, 1993 MINUTES: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to accept the minutes
of the August 16, 1993 meeting after striking of an incorrect statement by John Howard in the
CHAIRPERSONS REPORTS. SECOND by Scott Rynerson. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
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I. RAAA UPDATE: Director Dave Bechtold informed the committee members that Tom Neumann was
not able to attend the meeting to give an RAAA update and introduced the next guest, Rich Lonnquist,
to the committee members.
II. STAFF RECOGNITION: Rich Lonnquist, President of RAAA Traveling Baseball, was present this
evening to recognize and express the appreciation of RAAA and the program directors for the great job
the parks maintenance staff workers have done on the facilities that are used by RAAA. He noted that
the staff members go beyond what is expected of them, especially during tournaments. There are often
comments on the great condition of the playing fields by visiting coaches and managers. Rich also
thanked Dave Bechtold and Lisa Jost for their part in keeping the facilities in good condition and the
good scheduling.
Scott Rynerson in turn expressed the appreciation of the Parks and Recreation committee members for
the work that RAAA does with the area youths. The programs that RAAA sponsors fill a need in the
community and helps relieve the work load of the Parks and Recreation department.
111. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho was present this evening to update the committee
members on the progress the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee has been making in the past month. He
first mentioned that Rick and the Parks staff are in the process of excavating and limerocking trails in
the woods. The hockey rinks have been removed and the 300 tons of lime rock will be stored in this
area near the high schooL
The brush cutters have been approved for purchase and they will be used to begin cutting buckthorn
in November.
The Ca rolls Woods committee has received a donation of S2,500.00 from the U.S.P.C.I.for excavation
and limerock. The U.S.P.C.I. has stated that they would be interested in being involved in future
projects for the woods.
Mike has stated that the committee has requested that a map be completed that shows the current trail
locations in the woods, perhaps with an overlay of proposed trails to be constructed. Dave stated that
he has talked to members of the Engineering department to help with the logisties of such a map and
the copying.
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September 20, 1993
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Deanna Simpson had some concerns regarding an access point to the park on the Southwest corner
for the development that is going in at that location. It was suggested that this topic be put on the
agenda for the October meeting of the Carrolls Woods Committee.
IV. SUMMARY OF ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE MEETING: Deanna stated that all the committee
members received a copy of the Erickson Community Square Committee minutes of September 14,
1993. She briefed them on the contents of the minutes. They are proceeding with the grade plans for
the shelter and amphitheater area. The amphitheater area has been moved a bit south so as not to
interfere with the pond. They are looking into the purpose and uses for the proposed shelter.
John Loch has talked with Chuck Novack to see if he would be interested in working on the shelter
project. Chuch has expressed an interest, and they are dicussing possibly waiving his commission for
this. They will be contacting Chuck to meet with him at the October 12th Erickson Square meeting.
Consent for approval fo OSM to move ahead on the specs and plans for the shelter will be on the City
Council Agenda for September 21, 1993. After the specs are completed they will need to be approved
and authorized by the City Council to go out for bids.
John Miller has been working with Corcoran on possibly asphalting and curbing their property in order
to help with the drainage problem intothe community garden area. Dave will be following up with John
on this. Engineering will need to help on this layout.
Scott Rynerson inquired on the progess of the encumbered S30,000.00 for the subcommittees. Dave
reported that each committee has submitted a list of uses for the funds, and the City Council has
authorized the expenditures. Steve Jilk now needs to authorize the spending of the funds as each
committee requests them with purchase orders.
V. WORKSHOP TOPIC FOR THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 7, 1993: After a short discussion the
committee members decided they had no issues to be discussed at a workshop meeting and A MOTION
was made by Dave Giliuson to cancel the October 7, 1993 workshop meeting. SECOND by Tom Reller.
Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
VI. DISCUSS RESULTS OF SEPTEMBER 2, 1993 WORKSHOP: Dave handed out a summary of the
September 2, 1993 workshop meeting to each committee member. Dave and Scott Rynerson briefed
the committee members that were not present on the highlights of the meeting. They had discussed
possibly discussing prioritizing subjects that need attention in the Master Parks Plan. The committee
members did not feel that this needed any further discussion at this meeting. Dave stated that if there
are any concerns at all that he can be contacted and it will be put on the agenda for the next month.
VII. SUMMARY Of RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING: Lisa handed out a summary of the recreational
activities that will be taking place or are already in place for the fall and winter. She stated that the
enrollments for Tiny Tots were down a bit. The enrollment is currently around 10 for each class, but
if it should reach 12 or better an assistant will need to be hired.
CoRec Power Volleyball has a full league, but there is still room for more teams in the CoRec Reactional
league.
Lisa invited the committee members to volunteer to help with the Halloween activities that are coming
up in the next month. If any members are interested in helping, Lacelle Cordes will be coordinating the
volunteers.
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I. CHlll AVENUE AND 145TH STREET TRAIL CHANGE: Dave stated that Bud Osmundson had
contacted him regarding the trail along Chili at the area of construction on 145th Street and Chili. Due
to changes in the area there is not enough room to replace the 8 ft. bituminous trail that had been
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present. After discussion with Bud and Ron Wasmund it was decided to replace the trail with a 6 ft.
concrete sidewalk. The Public Works department is responsible for winter maintenance of this trail and
Ron Wasmund has agreed that the 6 ft. concrete sidewalk would work for the area.
11. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
LINDA LADZUN: Updated the members on the community center. The walls are up in the banquet
room. The construction is going pretty well on schedule. They are wrapping up the ice time for the
school and RAAA. The fees and policies are being completed. Jim has been invited to the November
workshop meeting to do a presentation on the progress of the community center.
JOHN HOWARD: John suggested that the committee members meet to set up a calendar of topics to
discuss at the workshop meetings that would be pertinent to the month in which they are meeting.
This would enable the committee to work in a proactive manner instead of just "troubleshooting". He
listed a small sample of possible subjects that could be put on the schedule. It was decided to discuss
this issue at the December workshop meeting. This includes the list of topics that are to be discussed
annually such as Bylaws. The topics would be listed per month at the start of the year with new items
added to tfie list each month.
SCOTT RYNERSON: After walking through Carrolls Woods and noting quite a bit of debris from work
that is taking place in the park, Scott was concerned that this has been removed or cleaned up. He
was informed by the Parks maintenance staff that was present that this had been taken care of.
DEANNA SIMPSON: None.
TOM RELLER: None.
DAVE GILIUSON: None.
IIL DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Dave handed out a list of "Parks Policies" that had been updated and
completed by Lacelle Cordes and Wendy Foreman as part of Wendy's summer internship with the
department. They are policies that have been practiced, but now have been put in writing. He asked
the members to read the policies and compare them to the current policies and bring any comments
to the October meeting. If approved they will then go to the City Council for approval and then put on
the books. Dave will have details of the proper process by the Octobe meeting. The city attorney has
reviewed the ordinances already.
IV. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Dave Giliuson to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m. Scott Rynerson
SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 6. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 20, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Giliuson, Deanna Simpson, Linda Ladzun, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller,
Scott Rynerson came late)
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor,
LaCelle Co des, Parks and Recreation Programmer; Wendy Willman, Parks and Recreation
Programmer; and Lisa Jost, Assistant Community Center Manager
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Howard
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Vice Chairperson, Dave
Giliuson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 15, 1993 MINUTES: Corrections to draft were made in the area
relating to Bud Osmundson's comments at the Erickson Community Square meeting. It should state
that Bud suggested that we request the Utility Commissions to wave fees dealing with utili#y
installations rather than stating that he recommends no fees. Also in that section, it should be
noted that Bud did indicate that the possible design proposat that he had in mind for the Flower Garden
area should be considered as a temporary solution rather than a long term solution to the drainage
problems.
MOTION by Tom Reller to accept the minutes of the November 15, 1993, meeting with the corrections
as noted. SECOND by Deanna Simpson. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
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I.RAAA UPDATE: Tom Nuemann was not available for this meeting. Dave Bechtold reported
that there has been a movement by the RAAA Board to have a member of their board seek
appointment to the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Board. They feel they need to become
directly involved in the political process if they are ever to be truly heard regarding their
requests of adequate numbers of facilities in Apple Valley to match the number of participants
from Apple Valley in their programs.
The RAAA Board has asked Dave Bechtold to contact the Apple Valley Director of Parks and
Recreation to work together to identify possible sites where a storage building for their
equipment might be built. Since a large portion of the participants are from Apple Va{ley, it is
hoped that city will wo k to find a site for this project.
The RAAA Board has been told that when the new park complex in Apple Valley is built near
140th Street and Galaxie Avenue, that they will be receiving a sizeable portion of the facility
schedule for RAAA use.
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December 20, 1993
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II.PARK EVALUATIONS: Rick Cook gave a short overview of major areas of park work for this
past month. Brush cutting and chipping in Carrolls Woods did receive a lot of time by staff.
This included additional efforts with volunteers. Because of the warm weather, rink flooding
was put on hold. Park staff has been and continues to assist in getting the ice arena ready fo
use.
111. ERICKSON COMMUNITY SO.UARE: There was no regular meeting in December. Dave Bechtold
informed the Committee he had made contact with the National Guard to possibly assist with
the grading in Erickson Community Square. Major Glass and First Sergeant Theide met with
Rick, Jim Koslowski, and Dave in Erickson Park to discuss the possibility. Those members of
the Guard wiil be meeting with the engineering and construction portion of the Guard out of
Willmar, Minnesota to discuss this project. They did sound very optimistic about working with
us on this proposaL
There was no meeting held in December. The next monthly meeting will be held on the evening
of January 12, 1994, at 7:00 p.m. at Big Daddy's.
Scott Rynerson came to meeting and took over Chairperson duties.
IV. CARROLLS WOODS COMMITTEE UPDATE: Mike Busho, Chairperson of the Carrolls Woods
Committee gave an update. A summary of the trails relating to construction and concept
design was included.
The trail stemming from the southwest access needs to be moved slightly towards the south
because of the terrain. Deanna Simpson indicated that it is important to move the trail to
accommodate the grades.
Certificates of appreciation will be drawn up for the school volunteers who have helped to pull
brush out of the woods far chipping.
It was decided that on Saturday,January 15, 1994, committee members interested in viewing
the traii system and markers for new trails in the southwest area of the park will meet in the
Carrolls Woods. Those taking part will meet at 10:00 a.m. in the area of the old hockey rink
site. Dave Bechtold and others commented that they may not be able to attend this date. The
decision was made to have all members interested in taking part to call the Parks and
Recreation Office by January 13, 1994, to let us know that they wiB be attending. This date
and trail observation will be used as the January workshop meeting.
V. BYLAWS: At our last meeting the bylaws were reviewed. As in the past years,a deep concem
was expressed relating to the inclusion of the Parks and Recreation Committee in the hiring
process of a Parks and Recreation Director. The decision was made to include at least one
member of the Parks and Recreation Committee in the process of selection and interviewing
of the hiring of a Parks and Recreation Director.
This item would be included in Section #9, Article #8.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty with a second by Deanna Simpson to include in this section the
statement ". . . at least one member of the Parks and Recreation Committee will be an active
member of the selection and interview process for the position of Director of Parks and
Recreation." Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING APPROVED
December 20, 1993
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i.CARLSON PROPERTY:
A. Carrousel Plaza South Development. The main aspect of this development is a movie
theate. The property is located just west of Highway 3. The committee reviewed the
project and agreed to a park dedication of cash.
MOTION by Jerry Puciaty with a second by Scott Rynerson to have a cash dedication
for the Carrousel Plaza South Development. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. Motioned Carried.
B.Rosemount Village Square Development. This was a foltow-up and update on this
project. At the August 16, 1993, meeting a motion was made to have a cash park
dedication from this site. Because small portions of land were added since that time,
it was brought back to the committee for additionat input. Although the land amounts
were not significant there was time to bring this back to the committee for clarification
for the final plat process.
MOTION by Scott Rynerson with a second by Dave Giliuson "in addition to the cash
dedication proposal on August 16, 1994, we add in lots 2, 3, 4, and 5 for cash
dedication". Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. Motion Carried.
IL WENSMANN PRELIMINARY PLAT: This item was reviewed briefly at the last meeting.
Questions relating to deck homes, the trail location and the access road off of Cou ty 24 were
addressed.
With the access road off of County 42 not existing, and therefore not crossing the bike trail a
short distance from County 42, that issue is no longer a concern.
Concems had been expressed about adequate open space and/or parks in this development.
This concern was due to the fact that a la d use change was made from single family homes
to that of multiple dwellings. With the increased density, the committee felt a need to have
additional open space required.
The committee asked that Dave Bechtold take back to the Planning Department a request for
land for parks.
A future park in a future development was brought up. It was decided that, as in Limerick
Town Homes, it is possible that development stops and the park that should have been built
does not get built. This was not felt to be a viable arrangement.
The committee felt that we should not wait for future development to address this issue. An
area was identified on the map provided. Dave is to take this back to the Planning Department
for discussion as to a more exact location, amount of land and design.
MOTION by Deanna Simpson with a second by Dave Gilliuson to "take this plan back to the
Planning Department for review fo land park dedication in this area". Ayes: 6 Nays: 0.
MOTION CARRIED.
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December 20, 1993
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III. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
JERRY PUCIATY - None.
LINDA LADZUN - None.
DAVE GILLIUSON - None.
TOM RELLER had some deep concems about the manner in which skating lessons are being
provided with the youth this season. With the Community Center offering lessons there were
no outdoor lessons this year. That meant the fee going from 513 per child to that of 580.
Dave Gilliuson and other members of the committee expressed support of this concern. They
felt the price was too high.
Deanna Simpson commented that we could have predicted over two years ago that when the
center was built,that programs and prices would change. Dave Bechtold agreed that there will
be changes made in more programming. By working together it is possible that programs such
as outdoor skating lessons can be conducted in the same period of time as the indoor lessons.
For this season it just did not seem appropriate to offer outdoor lessons when the Community
Center was planning to schedule lessons. It is not always for the Director of Parks and
Recreation nor the Parks and Recreation Committee to be involved in the pricing of programs
at the Community Center. But, it does seem appropriate for us to discuss this item in regard
to possible joint programming. Other committee members expressed a need to have Dave
Bechtold discuss this item with the Community Center manager and possibly offer the outdoor
lessons again in 1994-1995. Lisa Jost, the Assistant Manager of the Community Center was
at the meeting and did give supportive comments for the rationale used in not setting up the
skating lessons again in 1993-1994 season.
MOTION by Tom Reller with a second by Dave Gilliuson to have Dave "look in to working with
the Community Center for the type and schedule of lessons and the possibility of continuing
outdoor slcating lessons again in 1994-1995". Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Jerry Puciaty and others expressed concerns with the "community services" aspect for the low
income people when conducting programs. It was felt that this should be addressed in all of
our programming.
DEANNA SIMPSON commented that a check for 57,000 was written by the Jaycees last
summer. It was intended to be given to the Chamber of Commerce for potential projects in
Erickson Community Square, That check had been misplaced by the Jaycees, however, it had
now been found and given to Dave Bechtold. He is processing it and will see to it that the
57,000 is given to the Chamber.
SCOTT RYNERSON questioned the damages relating to the Flower Garden. Dave Bechtold and
Deanna Simpson explained to the committee that the business person located next to the
garden had plowed snow into the shrubs and trees. There will be an assessment of the
damages and possibly a bill sent to the business next spring. Dave has met with that business
person. The problem resulted from an employee plowing snow into the city property. The
business person has asked to meet with the Erickson Community Square Committee to discuss
this issue and to also discuss ways he can wo k together with the committee to further improve
that area. Dave is informing the Community Square Committee that the business person witl
be at their next meeting in January.
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December 20, 1993
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Scott thanked the staff for the work they have done with the volunteers in Carrolis Woods.
He commented that they come to work, do not take breaks and just plain go to work.
Scott proposed that Dave put together an indoctrination book for new members. There are
some memberships up at this time and new members might be coming on board. Dave
Bechtold commented that he will work on this for both newly appointeci members and those
who have been on the committee for a longer period of time.
Scott made a special note of thanks to Rick Pearson, the Assistant Planner, for attending the
December workshop meeting. Rick took the time to meet with us and to discuss non-park open
space and general green space as it pertains to development.
IV. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
DAVE BECHTOLD encouraged present members whose terms are up to reapply for serving on
the committee.
Dave commented that he and his staff are re-organizing the Parks and Recreation Department.
By January 30, 1994, they hope to have some major decisions made as to changes in staff
assignments, staff schedules, and general operations. With the resignations of three staff
members over the past months,there is new staff coming on board. The department will never
be the same as it was. We need to change and adjust to the new staff and the changes in
programming arrangements.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Dave Gilliuson to adjourn the meeting. Deanna Simpson SECONDED
the motion. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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FROM DAVID J . BE 70LD , DIRECTOR OF PARKS & ECRERTION
DATE OC70BER 13 , 1993
RE: PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF OCT . 18 , 1993
DATE: OCTOBER 18, 1993
PLACE: ROSEMOUN7 CITY HALL
TIME= 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA'
I . CRLL MEETING TO ORDER
II . ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III . APPROVE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 20 , 1993 MEETING
IV . AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BUSINESS'
I . RRAA UPDATE ( 70M NUEMANN }
II . CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE
III . SUMMARY FRONf ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMS7TEE
IV . WORK SHOP 70PIC FOR MEETING , NOVEMBER 4 , 1993
V . DISCUSSION OF PARK ORDINANCES
VI . QARK ORDINANCE DISCUSSIONS AND APPROVA
NEW BUSINESS
I . RESIGNATION OF DEPARTMENT PRRT TIME SECRETARY
II . DEPARTMENT S7AFFING PROP05AL5
III . WENSMANN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSRL
IV . CHAIRPERSON 'S REPORT
V . DIRECTOR 'S REPORT
VI . ADJOURNP iENT
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE DRAFT
REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 18, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Deanna Simpson, Linda Ladzun, Scott Rynerson, Dave Giliuson, John Howard,
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation; Lacelle Cordes, Program Director
Parks and Recreation; Kerry Budinger, Secretary; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor; Mark Joosten, Parks
Staff
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:45 p.m. by chairman, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 20, 1993 MINUTES: MOTION by Dave Giliuson to accept the minutes
of the September 20, 1993 meeting as written. SECOND by Scott Rynerson. Ayes: 5 Nays: 0.
MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE INPUT: None.
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I. RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann said that RAAA had applied to the U.S.P.C.I. for funds to offset
their field maintenance fees. RAAA's usual method for collecting the fees was to charge members
S3.00 per family per year. This year RAAA will change this to collecting $1.00 per sport in the
registration fees and there will be no family memberships.
The association has solicited donations for the last couple of years and approximately 510,000.00 has
been collected. Part of these funds will be set aside for program grants, and the remainder of the funds
will be distributed throughout each sports program on a prorated basis.
Tom used this time to express his concerns regarding the usage fees that the community center is
going to be charging for the facilities. He stressed that he felt it was time to meet with Apple Valley
and come to some conclusion about field usage and fees. Forty-five percent of the participant in RAAA
are Apple Valley residents and therefore Apple Valley must start shouldering more of the responsibility
for facility usage. Dave stated that he, along with Jerry Puciaty and Linda Ladzun, will meet with
Rosemount Softball Association and RAAA in November.They will begin discussing fee structures and
the process of making the field and facility usage more equitable between the cities of Rosemount and
Apple Valley.
II. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE: Mike Busho,Chairman of the Carrolls`:Noods Subcommittee,updated
the committee members on the work the committee has been accomplishing. The lime rock has been
completed on the trail from the entrance to the devils pit area, and starts again further to the north from
this point.
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They are continuing to cut buckthorn with the help of local high school students. Buckthorn in the area
treated with Tordon after cutting is coming back at a slower rate than the rest of the areas.
The committee has discussed putting up a barrier at the entrance to the woods near the high school.
They are hoping this will keep automobiles off the trail area. There would be a maintenance gate and
walk through included in this. Dave will be contacting the high school to see if they would be
interested in sharing the costs for this project. If possible, this will be a barrier of trees along with a
gate to control access by vehicles.
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The subcommittee made a motion for Rick and the parks staff to mark the sout[west entrance to the
woods and the connecting trail. The developer will grade the area and the city will put down an
aggregate trail at the site. Deanna Simpson said that the aggregate trails currently found in the woods
are very nice surfaces to walk on and they look pleasant winding through the woods.
Mike informed the committee members that the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee had voted that evening
to recommend Deanna Simpson serve as a member of the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee. Scott made
a MOTtON to appoint Deanna Simpson to the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee. The motion was
SECONDED by John Howard. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. Deanna stated that she is
looking forward to serving on the committee.
III. SUMMARY ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE COMMITTEE: Deanna Simpson informed the
committee members that Chuck Novack, a local architect, has volunteered his time to developing a plan
for the shelter for Erickson Community Square. He will be working closely with Scott Gunhus who is
developing a landscape plan for the area. They will be striving for a design that will work well as a
warming house, picnic shelter, and be aesthetically pleasing for walks in the park and garden area.
They will also try to blend the shelter with the area and with city hall. Chuck Novack and Scott Gunhus
received the plans drawn up by Kosy several months ago and they will be expanding on them.
Dave informed the committee that Chuck Novack had recently asked for the GSI of the area from the
consulting engineering department. The engineers were very cooperative and have recently sent this
information to Chuck.
Requests for bids for the grading of the area went out and will be in on 10/29/93 at 10:00 a.m. Some
of the grading costs were defrayed by the use of fill from the construction on 145th Street and Chili.
Ed Howard, a member of the audience, asked if the committee had yet looked at using the Guard for
man power on any projects. He said that now is a good time to get them involved. They are at a down
time and willing to get involved in community projects, especially one with the level of visibility that
Erickson Community Square will have. He suggested that Dave or a committee member contact Major
General Eugene Andriotti as a starting point. He stressed that even if the Guard cannot help at this
point, they may be willing to get involved in future projects if the leg work is done now. Dave said that
he would talk to Jim Topitzhofer the following day to get his recommendations of what steps to take.
Jim has been working closely with the Guard on the construction of the armory and community center.
Dave commented on how the lines of communication between the Parks and Recreation Committee and
the subcommittees must remain open. This will enable each committee to make greater progress with
their projects and to help keep the community on track with what is being accomplished. Deanna
stressed that projects such as Carrolls Woods will always be controversial. The Parks and Recreation
Committee and the respective subcommittees have to continue to use the Master Plan to show there
are goals each committee is striving for. This could be used to counteract the negative influences
working on certain projeets.
IV. WORKSHOP TOPIC FOR MEETING,NOVEMBER 4, 1993: As discussed at the September 20, 9 993
meeting, Jim Topitzhofer has been invited to the November 4, 1993 meeting. Dave asked that all of
the committee members plan to attend this workshop. Dave said that Jim has had time to develop
plans, draw up commission statements, etc. and he feels the Parks and Recreation Committee should 4,
draw on what he has done. Now is a good time to talk with Jim while he has the time. When he starts
with operations of the community center, he may not have the time to share with us. The meeting is
scheduled for November 4, 1993 at 7:30 p.m.
V. PARK ORDINANCE DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL: Dave presented the updated park ordinances
that Wendy Foreman worked on with Lacelle Cordes during Wendy's internship this summer. They
have been edited and presented to the City attorney. They were given to the committee members last
month to look over. Dave requested an approval for a change f om the Parks and Recreation
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October 18, 1993
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Committee members. He asked that it be specifically stated in the park ordinances that Erickson
Community Square hockey rinks were open 24 hours. The skaters would have access to the lights to
operate on their own, but would not have access to the warming house after hours. In previous years
skaters have often been seen on the rinks at 1:00 or 2:00 a.m. It has been policy to let them have
access to the lights for several years, and they have had no incidences of problems.
Scott Rynerson made a MOTION to recommend the park ordinances with the addition of 24 hour
hockey rinks at Erickson Community Square to the City Council for their approval and adoption.
SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
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I. RESIGNATION OF DEPARTMENT PART TIME SECRETARY: Dave informed the committee members
that Kerry Budinger has resigned from the position of Secretary Aide for the Parks and Recreation
Department. Her last day of employment will be Friday, October 22, 1993.
Dave supplied the committee members with an executive summary for action that will be presented to
the City Council on October 19, 1993. It recommends that the council accepts the resignation of
Kerry, approve the job description for the Secretary Aide position, and authorize the posting and
advertising #or the position.
II. DEPARTMENT STAFFING PROPOSAL: Dave briefed the committee members on hiring strategy for
filling the positions. In order to promote some stability within the department Dave is recommending
that the council approve Wendy Foreman and Lacelle Cordes for full time Programmers for the Parks
and Recreation Department. This would leave the position of the Assistant Director open at this point.
The department will consist of two programmers and a part time secretary. Dave and Ron Wasmund,
acting City Administrator, will continue to evaluate the needs of the department and make
recommendations accor ingly. Dave would like this to take effect immediately in order for Wendy and
Lacelle to get to work on their respective programs as soon as possible. When the new administrator
is hired that person can work with Dave to address the Parks and Recreation Department and to
possibly fill the position of Assistant Director at that time.
Scott noted that the Parks and Recreation Committees position on staffing issues is to leave them to
the director and administration, but wished the staff good luck.
III. WENSMAN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL: Dave gave each member a copy of a proposed
development plan by Wensmann Homes, Inc. that is located bordering south of Cty. Rd. 42, and placed
between Shannon Parkway and Diamond Path. It shows that there is a large open space for a park
placed within the development with bike trails running through the development connecting Shannon
Parkway with Diamond Path. One safety concern was that this bike trail crosses a main street in the
middle of a block. There are also questions on how it may be possible to connect the bike trail that
stops on Danbury to a bike trail that stops on Danville Ave. This will be connected with a trail that runs
east and west along 151 st Street.
The committee had several concerns and asked Dave to get further information on the number of
multiple dwellings in the development, and the definition of a deck home. Dave will also ask if the park
area will be used for ponding, and who will be maintaining the trails through the development. Dave s;
said that he will collect the information the committee is requesting and bring it to the ne ct meeting in
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November.
IV. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
DAVE GILIUSON: Nothing at this time.
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October 18, 1993
Page 4
DEANNA SIMPSON: Deanna had a request from the garden club about placing a snow fence on the
west side of the community garden bordering the Dakota Central Buildings parking area. There was
a short discussion regarding the possible need for a permanent fence there. Deanna felt that a snow
fence would be sufficient at this point.
Deanna said that there have been some inquiries by residents in the neighborhood of the construction
on 145th Street and Chili Avenue. There has been a triangular area created by this, and the garden
club is looking at doing some landscaping in the area. Several neighbors in the area have expressed
their interest in helping with this project. There is some money in the Tree Trust that may be used to
buy some apple trees and flowers for this area. This is a public works area. Dave's staff will
coordinate some of the work that has already been discussed between Deanna Simpson and Bud
Osmundson.
SCOTT RYNERSON: None.
JOHN HOWARD: Stated he enjoyed working at the Renaissance Festival, but was not sure the profits
were worth all the work.
LINDA LADZUN: Updated the committee members on the community center commission. They are
continuing to work on policies, procedures, and rates. They are currently focusing on concession stand
policies.
V. DtRECTOR'S REPORT: At the next meeting in November Dave said that it will be necessary to look
at the bylaws. They will be sent with the agenda for the November meeting. He recommended that
the committee members look at them, and pay special atte tion to the section on voting in new
officers. The park dedication formula will be reviewed to see if any changes are needed for the year.
IV. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m. Deanna Simpson
SECONDED the motion. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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RE COh1P1ITTEE MEETING OF NGVEMBEFi 15 , 1993
DaTE : NOVEMBER 15 , 1993
PLACE ; ROSEMOUNT CTTY HALL
TIM : 7;30 P . M .
NOTE:
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AGENDA:
I , CALL MEETING TQ ORDER
I T . ADD IT Tt NS Ti THE AGENDA
TII . APPROVE MTNUTES OF THE OCT08ER 18 , 1993 ME T]:NG
IV . AUD:[ENCE INPUT
OLD BU5INESS'
I . F A, UP r T ( 7C M liJEM,NN / & C AVE }
I I . P RK E'1s LUr TIt hJS 1 Tr FF WORK ( ICK. CCcJK )
1'T T , AF2Mn`( UPD T ( SUMP'fAR`( 0 ,ORK SHOP M ETING 0 11/4 , 3
IU . UP 7 TE OPd DEVELC PM NT ( GENER L DTS'USSTON )
V . RICKSON COh1MlJNITY SC.JARE ( UPC A7E )
VI , CARRt LLS WOi D: 1 ( UPDAT )
NEW BUSINESS
I , tYLR4J5 REVI.W
II . PARK L EL ICATIc hJ R VIEW
IIl' . CHASRPERSOP d 'S EPORT
I 1 . C IRECTOR 'S REF O T
V . Ap.70URNMENT
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 15 , 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT= John How.rd , .7 rry Puciaty , Tom R ll r , C Giliuson ,
G nna SimpSan
STAFF PRESENT: C., E cht l , Dir ctor ofi Park: ecr tian , F;icl.
Cn k , Super isor f Par ks f intenancc , Lacelle Cnrd:s , P&R ra rarnrner ,
M r!< Joos en , h I:int n i cA II ( Parks )
MEMBERS ABSENT= Scott Ryn rsnn , iinda Ladzun
CALL TO ORDER= 7n m tir g . ca.Ll-c to orc r :r. .% : 35 by V.i_e
Ci airpersGn , Dave Giliu n .
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA= N nz
APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 18 , 1993 MIIVU7ES= MOTION ,:y ?anna Sim=;rn
a rcve the min..; c7f O:;tob r 18 , 1993 . SECOIVD y .7;wrr; .ici._; .
y s : P x,r : c; MOTION CARRIED .
Ui IE ICE IN UT Non
OLD BUSINESS
I . RAAA UPDATE C ir:c c r C a ,ht.l i informeci the Cc mmit e m,mb rw;
th t Tc m N.emanr w. not ble to ak.tencl this m eting . He su mitte t
vhe Cc mmitt e a copy f h-= znformation fr m tl R Aa B ar tt at
cS t.il c.i t.h p rc nt of .rti.ci ar t from ach of the area citi s and
tf p t-cent f fii lc: tl at cl city ro id p r spr rt .
TI . PARK EVALUATIONS= ":i k C ak ancs 1 r k t n Q :h rt •:::u.rnrn.ry.
c>fi the w rk rel in 7ayc: f ar- k , This incl«S cS th s ll fia.lci
c,ru,wt i,r n: the t7- lanti n th t. . a part af a par k r n .
S,ick ir-=orm d n c c1rnmitt that tn y I d ut t.i? of the main post cf in
th ground ,r th l r r pi ni tahl . Con:tru,tion of th picnic
tables can nc U t.ls 1 c w,n t.h crcw f as tim to builcl .hem .
Fnllowin a ciiscussic n of the two r m inin ta'les a decision was rn d
a t ihere tG construct ti ircl anc4 faurth structur s . MC77TON by D dnn
Simpson to cons.ruct ong tabl in 8isc yn Park a d th; uth r in Ki u r
Par k . SECOND by .7o1 n ;owarc! . Ayes 5 Nay s 0 , MOTION CARRIED .
III . ARMORY UPDATE= G v Giliusc i %nd oth rs suinmarize intormati n
from tY r No i:mber ic r ksho . 'im To;itzhof r , t Dir ctor af t e
cw mmunity Centrr , w at t1 at meetin to l'J a tailed re{rt nf th
lanned Cent.r rp rat ions , ave Es ch old has notes t1 h ,il.l write
up i or tl C mmitt m mber: .
IV . UPDATE ON DEVELOPMENTS: No specific cl velopments were discussecl .
D anna Sim s n vaiced her feelings relating to ar a.s of the city that
ar rezc ned or some other chang is made in tf7 lanned type r t
d v lo m;nt that was to take place there . When the Parks Mas.r Pl n
w s g nerated th r wa c rtain type nf land use th t we bas i t
decision dn . If t1,r i n w to k e d cl ange thvn we should consicl r
ow tl at cl an es th park dem nds frr m cash to 1 nd c r wh t
combin ti ns of lanci and cash we should be as ing for to develop arks .
Ev n if takint 1an does 7 't a1.1 for enougl t-,h t e4 1, th p,rk
ri'r t aw y it mi ht b e:t to get th ].ancS o that. l tt r n w can
cl vel p tl typ af rk that i ac qu t t meet th n ds c f th t
rea .
Oth r members v icec! tl ea.r dgreement wit.h this opinion .
Th r in y b: : n-:1 to hav tl r de A:o er inclu m r przv, p rk
1 n! in th .:v lc prn r t alsa ii= the cS n ity <.: _; up . Th t way w co.l i
m t t I- rn r« ju.:i as we .lanned tn ac in th Lim rick T wi H arne
d v l m nt . 7I7 t cc r c pt hauld be adclre5sed wh n there is m_lti le
w.11in y:lann< .
MOTION by D i Giliu:nn to discusy the rk edicatian land v/s cash
i su ,t th Ca s:einber 2 , 1gR3 w rks . 5ECOND by Jerry Puciaty .
A'Y, . N ye 0 M07ION CARRIED .
V . ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE: D.nna 5im r n an .7ohn How r t w .
br i t= su nm ry fr n th i r 1,t me ti n of Nov mb r 10 , 19'?^ . 8ud
l).-a Tl l,l.Tl C:=C Tl ;, "1... 1' T"I)1 Tl=..^.T s '1 c"1 C Ci Ifl ,C '."1 ia t, fTl v'',1 Tl .O Ca'1 L v c. 1"1
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U c c! i ll l .t_.:t].17: G Y l.l.1.].,1 t?S , C 15 C l.,[SS Y c'i 1 Tl c'3 V "".il c T"Tl S , ^.,t i: . .
Bi d r commenc ed t e u of dr n :,il Frarn th; Corcc r n •ro r:Y ta a
tc>>m u7-ain alon< t e Uri: w y t Czty H 11 t c;ont r-aJ. th: r«i c i=f
frarn tr t a-:a . i recom nencl d also tha, ,t n t'r WAC , 6JAC , and h1t JCC
ch.r s cam c,u: wahan t sh it r i c ns ruct, tl t he Utility
u;-•i trr:r r_ nc u.lci w iv: thos f e -Fc7 r .__; c-: ty rc,j.ct .
Th :now 1-n4 i: u r b tw n t!- i z c t. .i.lc in .n thM fl w r rd n .
T:y thank d Ua„e , F;ick , a.r c1 th- cr.i 1=ro fa.t a.ction in t ing c r f
r.'-.t:. ,-;:-,:;:1 .
Ti. <ra fir g fc r the arnph.th ate r wa: p{ o-Ff until n xt y ar . Dav I a.w
s nt a l t e7 t; th j_,t:::nt :un ral 's o=fica tc inquire about th
h(ati n 1 G_iard ecoming invol . Rick n< Dave will b contactinc,. the
l.s:j to _ z= r,-, wc u.0 b illina to h l; wzth th.: r ing ,r s s ,
t r
y ,
Tf, prc j ct h c gon out for bids . Since th lowest bi wa: rY I igh
it ,i; ecid c! t nut do the proj ct now . According tc 8ur there m y be
a f w places t et fre fill n ht y ar . Th t could sav u to 14 ,bn
on th project costs .
Ct-uck P ovak an' Scatt Gundhus are working or- t it landscaping ar-d
th ar,hit?,Wture 1= th buil in . 8 th hav waiv tf ir fees to wt rk
uaith this rc ject . The L ecember m eting was canc lled t allaw for th m
to hav m r tim t prepar c r-.win s , tc . frr th c mmitt .
VI . CARRO LS WOODS COMMITTEE UPDATE: h1ik uscho , chairman af th
committe , ga.vu an upd t . ick Cook and the crew l av identifieci d
g n ral lc wation for tf- tr i 1 l ading from tl sc uth e t cc ss point .
Da 8 chtol f s c:or7 c.ed th sc o l an r ceived permissi n from
7,1 5utt r t pl nt t7-s and in t,ll a walkin g t anr ma.intenance
gat. t tl trn.il uc s point located behind th high schnol .
Th r will I, volui te r bucktl;rn r ina ial da o i D c inb r 4th 1=rc m
1 : GG , . M . unti 1 1 ; 00 P . h1 , . Lett.rs wi 11 be sent to a 11 of tl e p c pl
an th m il_r<-; li t= tt r au r c mmittees . Th t ay a mor- cl ar locat.isar
fi tl-y> tr il rr dy- » i-fentii=.d wh n som of t1 bu ktF rn i remov d .
c3 cau e f tl r es of th ar a th trail may hav t b mo;
Lr.:ral f t fit of planneci loc tionW .
D'..' ,: u ., r c uNst uc O m ndson tt heck for th gr s tl:t
Uic Y- k.r , corn l t c; by ha c;ev;l p r anc ch.c:,< if t t 1 as n c;rar .
Th?r- a.r I-orn b,ina k uilt :lt r< tl e outlot an . st t m=7t .sl o:l; b
r 1 .a.l. i i'`C;i F i i:1 Tl'"i il c.`. 1 O .'i€ S a t U., J 1" t.i'i g Y e't"1 Yi q .
NEW BUSINESS
I . BYLAWS: Ti- (c::rninitt: a;r cf t hat y laGv., r acc:at l a s •aritt.n
c t i c r- the a.•r a c fi seivc.ti n prc c s; c f a D.r c.t::r if tnat ositicn
shaul v r n u . .7 r ry l uu i ty 1. t i: isc:!::s.ion wa i-. . d p
c::r7<.=7-r th t it w.:- f lt ta ,ry important t.'ut tl bylaG is L JOLl.C
t t tl at a m;Nn k.,<r of ti rk. , R=cr tz n Gommitt would b on th
l c:ti n can rnit an{ wcy_i1.c1 int,=:•rvi:, tl-: c nciidat s .
A1 C a nmitt n m r a r« that t.l is was im rtant tc them and t t
it huuld :.- discussed at th wc rkshop m etin i if th re wa time . Tnis
iten wa.s t bl h{ar action until ti.= D r mbwr 2nth m t.n ,
D e ch,r lcl is t ch ck if th:r is a plac in any city c licy tnat
i a ntifi s an;r s ci ic proce ur th t must b follow tha rtain
to th selection ane.i hiring af a Directc r . If there is no policy th en
th Crammitt f l that tf- P rk: ant R,r t,ion b l s sh ul adt re
tt is and inclu e th m in the proce5s .
II . PARK DEDICA7ION REVIEW: Discussions dealt first with th
resi?nti l d uication . D dicatinn infc r-mat.ion was pY-ent t r
rn mbers to use f r comp risons . It was f lt ta b im ortant to incre.se
th 1 n valu wl icl7 wou1 result in sligr t inc7-s this ye.r .
MOTION by .7erry Pu<iaty to r cQmm nd ta th, Cit.y Cauncil to incr-
th l r! value in th p rl; d dicati n fi es from 13 ,C G er acre t.o
tl zt ot 1+ ,OGO r arr . SECOND by J I n H warcl . Ay 5 . Nay: Q
MOTION CARRIED .
Tndustr-ial and camm rcial cS dicatic n 1=es w re discussed . It was fi lt
th t tl f rmula is ad qu te as writt n . MOTION f y D e Gili.uson t
re om r-; to tl e City roun:.,i l to k e the l n a1u in th cc mm 7-i l
a.nd industrial park J r irati n at 22 ,000 per acre . SECOND by De nna.
5a.m,,on . AY s 5 . Nayes 0 . MOTION CARRIED ,
u.v b c tr li br,u l7t tl e con,;-ryt af trai.l d t ic tinn to th
Committ . Other citi s do ha a tra.il f e alc ng with park cl cficati n .
f O^fll C U ll T"ta U 1 Y i=: t l%t t. t,f" ;i V}-.8 i" 1 ll t^].11+ ,'1 C C S. O 1'd 1 S W 1,t,"1
i u v:1;rn::-;,;: nd m.t. ,-z; fnr all tr il casts b sic s the ark
4a«ic tiun . Li Ft se , t I pa:t G.ity l nr r , had r quest d us tn
lo k in.o writin ,li y fior t.rail 1 Qt cGuld ,e us ed i n tf
P1ar-r ir< D rtm nt rr ewt: with c elop r-s . This it m will b discu:s
a.t t h D c rnk er 2 nci a sr kshop .
III . CHAIRPERSON 'S REPORT:
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cc c p r-:ti n r- :f pr,„i::,wt a; tl, w;rn r tat 1+t1 str et n CI7i1i
ve . . Shc= also ir ciu M cl E,u.c:f Osmun;:c n n S hiu st.aff in tY t tl an. you .
i i ',, t- 1 ' t.f t thi: i .n atl-er ;;ni l o w c lur teer an:i c.ity . 1
w rl:inc P c n-f in t n t: c:c mpl r_.=: not'r•r rr j c, that. ti cit.iz n ,ill
i.i: }=r"U Ci : . :..'.i"Il.>i 'c.1 il i,: ''u 'i.' 1"t C t?1 tiJ 2< T' -'v t F.' ia
v':.i t.j,',/: t:C i(1 f(1;=T"I i. C?'!'i t.f i.l. Y Cr;?c:t. „
G anna i as s n:. l tt r r:r<;ir s ia t t,h ministratc r , P 1 y 7r an
City Cauncil . SY i` lanr ir tc i a_ v this t'r nk y ut i.nt: the
n w pa;r .
i?ave echtolc,4 cornrn r t c agairi tha. w hc uld a.lw ys 'ren'm,r tha. tr
u pt r-t and i.l a troin th Park Recr ati n Cc mrnittee is very
important pa rt of making r es jnint projects of volun e_rs anci t.ff
w rk .
Je rry Puc iaty commentec! h t we shoulci make sur2 we dan 't tak the
a a r k m int na 1=or grant d . St ff is r ally u in< , job .
Tom Re11er and J rry cnmmented th, the Pa.rks & Recreation staffi hav
always wor ta w il with volunt rs . D ann s id it was important f r
oPle t F;now just I c w much work volu.nteers can accomplish ,
especial.ly by working tna th r with st hf .
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Da comm nte that wl7 n o;.: ti isit aur citY tl y r co niz the cl an
tr ets tc . . Tt7ey. r ally n tice it wh n they come to corn r and Ua
hav proj cts ].ik: th Chili s:t. . 1"I== unt.Y i. pl nnin a ki,:k a
th wa.er .a in or CY i nc.fal an Cou.r ty acl # 42 . This wiill also
bring atteni.it n to t f b.utifi t ion af t ,ity .
7oh n ,'c w rcl th_ank De,nna. for t-r pers n 1 f1=cr s in this project .
To 11.er - n n
C:V: l.1 J,J I 1 I I 1 I I
IV . DIRECTOR 'S REPORT= Som time a Deanna Sirnps n r min d u of k ow
irr o•rt n xt ,i: f r .ch ofi us t.o s t r`on l gaal s to why w
s rve on th P 7-'F,; ?x R c r.ti{n Ctan-it e . Tt is iin c t t n a7- us tc
look t thc e c,a.I . Sr,rn cf th rn mb r`f-iip:; are rorning to an end ancf
Da r qu^t each m m r t c nsi r s rw in <ain . G e ex ress t
his fe lings a ut t1 e c mfnrt l vel tha.t he nc{ is st f-F haue wi..h
w rkin< z t :ach , th C inini t? mwinka 7-:: . It is a p sitiv
r latians!-iip . Ther is int•racti.on , 1=dvack , and a conc rn for
WG7" C1 Tl t,c:=t}1 T- .
G_i.r n::xt. me tinci will be the g.lar C e,mk>u.r m tinc . gu¢st f th
Cc mmitt M mb r: a.: invS.t tt in u: an th p rtm nt s:ff wi11
also b invit:= to jGrn us .
F=' xs rr e t.in r_n T'r_i.r;c.y t E: : 30 t t.l: 'c n ur t Mi{dle chool D i:
ill n t al;; rc.> att n m:a:.,t nf tl-r in ti7 u tw ,.;wr_ia:l bu:et
m tinr _ _ fic r tl at. ame tirn,=: in citv 1,.11 , 7 i. rc u i Q fdr ssincs
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rt nf tl i: r a.a: tfor t:_ r ;t ft m m r a tt ,unty Ext n.i n
ffic i, 4,,c r :inc. tc.- p t toc t.l,r m t.rix r f ,r-vic:, =t c n b
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pru i4, t ro i ;b1., n r.v.tt. s ct r ,n, r_om in tt t li t wit.h a
li t. of t w r:ds tn.t ar- ir i:nti`i a k:y he cit.iz rr: .
7 cw i 111 i p 4 J 1"t C l; :;t].t ll c W f"1 a n W Tl: i:"i L.a i l 1'i X 't,c 1"i J.T" i.W 7 i'fl
Ci"1i}.,p pC t 3pc:i Cr_aUTl.y` 'r',r r'1Ci 42 . T. '1c^,:; .7.='FTl CJ T1 "ca1" c", ldTlC 1 Tlu , I
tl i ni lc>>-:a t t17 cir_y may b w u1 c o Uom thins tc a.m ro r it .
i t i1J. ci:c:.M: G,ai:. ot-er city t ff tc; fir d ut ti e wnershi ,
V . ADJOURNMENT: MOTION y .7ohn How a t: jt ur . SECOND k y Da4 e
G.iiius n . y 5 . N y s 0 . MOTION CARRIED .
i o osemoun
PHONE (612)423-4411 2875-145th Street West,Rosemount,Minnesota MAYOR
FAX (612)423-5203 Mailing Address:
Edward B.McMenomy
P.O.Box 510,Rosemount,Minnesota 55068-0510 COUNCILMEMBERS
Sheila Kiassen
James(Red)Staats
Harry Wilicox
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ADMI'STRATOR
Stephan Jilk
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FROM: DAVID J. BECHTOLD, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: AUGUST 11, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF AUGUST 16, 1993
DATE: AIIGIIST 16, 1993
PLACE: JAYCEE PARR SHELTER
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA:
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUTES OF THE JULY 19, 1993 MEETING
IV. AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BIISINESS•
I. RAAA UPDATE
II. CARROLLS WOODS UPDATE
III. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 2, 1993
NEW BUSINE88•
I. PARK DEDICATION CARLSON PROPERTIES
II. PARK DEDICATION KERRY JOHNSON PROPERTIES
III. PARK DEDICATION CMC PROPERTIES
IV. PARK DEDICATION BUSINESS PARK
V. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
VI. DIRECTOR'S R PORT
VII. ADJOITRNMENT
ver ings ovntng i osemoun
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FROM: DAVID J. BECHTOLD, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: APRIL 14, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF APRIL 19, 1993
DATE: APRIL 19, 1993
PLACE: ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA:
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II.ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUTERS OF THE MARCH 15, 1993 MEETING
IV.AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BOSINESB:
I. RAAA UPDATE
II. SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF APRIL 1, 1993
III. SUMMARY OF CARROLLS WOODS AND COMMUNITY SQUARE MEETINGS
IV, STAFFING
V. WORKSHOP MEETING FOR MAY 6, 1993
NEW BII8INE88:
I. RAP" GROUP PARK PROPOSAL
II. KERRY JOHNSON CONCEPT PLAN
III. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
IV. DIRECTOR S REPORT
V. ADJOURNMENT
i . t
PARRS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGOLAR MEETING OF APRIL 19, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Rynerson, Tom Reller, Dave Giliuson, Linda
Ladzun, Jerry Puciaty, Deanna Simpson, John Howard
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director Parks and Recreation, Lisa
Jost, Assistant Director Parks and Recreation, Rick Cook, Parks
Department, Mark Joosten, Parks Staff, Kerry Budinger, Secretary
MEMBERS A88ENT: None
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:40 p.m, by
chairperson, Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: There were no additions to the agenda,
but two "NEW BUSINESS" items were moved up on the agenda to
accommodate those who came to give presentations. The meetings
took place in the following order: OLD BIISINESS: I. RAAA Update;
NEW BIISINESS: I. "RAP" Group Park Proposal, II. Kerry Johnson
Concept Plan; OLD BIISINESS and NEN BIISINESS then followed as
printed.
APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 15, 1993 MINIITES: MOTION by Scott Rynerson
to accept the minutes of the March 15, 1993 meeting as printed.
SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MINIITES APPROVED.
AIIDIENCE INPIIT: None.
C i?:::;:5,.'.$8
I. RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann was present at the meeting to give a
brief update on RAAA registrations and the future of the joint
athletic complex proposed for Apple Valley. Registrations are
being completed for baseball, softball, and track at this time.
Soccer registrations are starting a week from April 19, 1993 . The
parks have been arranged and should be set.
He also reminded the committee members about the decision by the
Apple Valley City Council to allocate half of the money for the
arena to buy down bonds of the Maintenance Facility. He felt that
this spelled out the fate of the future athletic complex on 16Oth
Street in Apple Valley. He then read an excerpt from the minutes
of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Committee which stated
that the Finance Department of Appie Valley would be willing to
float $150, 000 to $180, 000 per year for the maintenance of the an
ice arena to the cities general fund. The Ualley Athletic Board is
divided on whether they should pursue the arena. In Toms opinion
he is not sure if the arena is fated to be built or not. He
encouraged a more aggressive approach to lobbying in favor of the
athletic facility by the RAAA members.
Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting
April 19, 1993
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I. "RAP" GROIIP PARR PROPOSAL
Council Member Sheila Klassen introduced the "RAF" Group (Rosemount
Activities Program) and the Chairperson, Lucinda Adams.
Lucinda informed the committee members of some of the history and
goals of the Group. The concern they bring before the committee
members this evening is the request for support of allacating land
for a small one acre park to be built in the immediate area of the
Rosemount Greens Apartments and Limerick Way Townhomes. She
briefed the members on the number af children located in the area
and the need for a park that can be accessed safely for play and
RAP activities. She then introduced Kim Cardelli who gave some
ideas the group had regarding contacting area businesses such as
Koeh Refining, and government offices that may be willing to
contribute money toward this project. Kim also gave some ideas of
perhaps working together with the Parks and Recreation Department
for maintenance of the park, etc. After considerable discussion
regarding the issue in relatian to the Parks Master Plan and
possible exceptions because of the derise population of multi-
dwelling homes in the area a MOTION was made by Scott Rynerson to
support a feasibility study for a park (private or public) in this
area. SECOND by John Howard. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
The RAP representatives asked for input from the committee on what
procedure to use ta introduce this idea to the appropriate city
committees and commissions. Scott Rynerson and Jerry Puciaty
voiunteered to meet with members of the committee for this purpose.
A meeting was set up for May 13, 1993 at 6: 30 p.m. to begin
preliminary discussions on this issue.
II. RERRY JOBNSON CONCEPT PLAN: Rosemount resident, Kerry
Johnson, came before the committee to give a presentation on a
proposed development plan for the land now occupied by Repairs Inc.
This land is located directly southwest of Erickson Community
Square. Mr. Johnson gave a brief presentation on the office
building he and his father are proposing for the area and the plans
of land use for the area to accommodate parking for the building.
Aecording to the current architectural plans more land wouid be
needed than is available at the present time. Kerry came before
the committee to propose the allocation of approximately 43 ft. X
160 ft. pieee of land to the north of the Repairs Inc. , now part of
Erickson Square, and another 7 ft. wide area to the east of
Repairs Inc. be allocated for his development project. At the
present time this land is proposed for fill to make an ADA
regulation walking path for access to Erickson Park. This path
would need to be moved more to the north, and Mr. Johnson stated he
would be willing to work with the Parks committee to make the
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April 19, 1993
Page 3
landscaping of the proposed development a part of the park. Ae
also stated that he was willing to share the parking area for the
office buildings to be used for park events, A conflict was seen
with the landscapinq and the new location of the proposed
amphitheater for Erickson square, but Deanna stated that the
Erickson Square Subcommittee would be willing to look at options
with Mr. Johnson that may benefit both parties. After a short
discussion the committee members concurred that they could discuss
the issue and make further recommendations after Mr. Johnson has
made his presentation to all committees and eommissions involved.
Mr. Johnson told the committee that they are looking at breaking
ground in the last summer, and he would appreciate if a decision
could be made in a timely manner.
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II. SIIMMARY OF R RR SESSION OF APRIL 1, 2993: Scott Rynerson
stated that he felt the workshop meeting was very informative.
RAAA Treasurer, Steve Reischauer, was very interesting, and brought
up a couple points about the RAP.A program that the committee
members were not aware of. One being the RAAA group that has a
purpose of looking at hardship cases and deciding who to help with
funding sports fees, etc. Scott felt that, perhaps, the RAP group
could benefit from this aspect of the RAAA program. Linda Ladzun
stated that she was not aware of this part of the program either,
and felt that it was a great benefit for those that needed it.
Mr. Reischauer voiced his thanks for Dave and the Parks and
Recreation Department for the great cooperation and efforts they
give to make the RAAA programs work.
III. SIIMMARY OF CARROLLS WOODS AND ERICR80N COMMTJNITY SQUARE
MEETINGS: Carrolls Woods: Ron Pederson was on hand to update the
committee members on the current status of Carrolls Woods projects.
A target area has been cut in Carrolls woods and they are readying
to apply a couple different herbicides to this area (Tordon or
Crossbow) to see the results of both. Another session is planned
to chip buckthorn on May lst. Volunteers are needed again for
this. The subcommittee has been busy -planning ways in which they
can use the $15, 000 from the CIP funds for each park. He listed
several ways in which the committee would like to use the money or
part of the funds, some being trail groomer, various hand tools,
hiring of staff, etc. The next meeting is scheduled for May 17,
1993 at 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Ron also notified the
Parks and Recreation committee members that he will be resigning
from the Carrolls Woods subcommittee due to other responsibilities
with the new arena. The committee members thanked him for his time
and efforts on the Carrolls Woods subcommittee.
Erickson Community Squarez Deanna told the committee members about
the tours the Erickson Square Subcommittee took on April 6, 1993 to
Parks and Recreation Cammittee Meeting
April 19, 1993
Page 4
the Minnesota Zoo to view their amphitheater, Terrace Oaks Park in
Burnsville, North Park in Lakeville, and Jaycee Park to view their
shelters. From these tours they have gotten some good ideas on
some things that would meet the needs of our community for the
amphitheater proposed for Erickson Square and the new shelter to be
built there also. The subcommittee also met on April 13 h to
discuss the tour and to set some goals for the coming year as far
as landscaping ideas, fund raising ideas, etc. The next meeting is
scheduled for May 18, 1993 at 7:00 p.m.
Dave informed Deanna that he had contacted Corcoran Equipment
regarding the water flow problem that is destroying areas of the
community garden. Corcoran is willing to work with the Erickson
Square Subcommittee on improving this situation. Deanna suggested
that perhaps the problem could be solved easily by digging trenches
and lining them with plastic and rocks. Maybe Corcoran could help
them dig the trenches to divert the water away from the garden
area. Dave agreed since Mr. Corcoran said he was willing to help
out on this item. The water flows from the Highway #3 area and
across the gas station and Corcoran Hardware to this flower garden
area.
IV. STAFFING: Dave informed the committee that on April 4, 1993
the City Council approved the promotion of Lacelle Cordes to the
position of part time parks programmer. Also, Wendy Foreman, who
a. been working for the department as a seasonal staff inember for
a couple years, has been recommended and approved for the position
of part time athletic program director. She will also be, f inishing
her college work and will be interning with our department this
summer for that purpose. The Parks and Recreation Departments are
both in the process of hiring their summer staff,
Scott Rynerson took this time to tell Lisa that the Egg Hunt was a
big success and thanked the staff for doing a great job at handling
the volume of children that were at the egg hunt this year.
V. WORRSHOP MEETING FOR MAY 6, 1993: Dave referred the committee
members to the copy of the memo that Ron Wasmund sent to the
Utility Commission. The meeting will be held with the members of
the Utility Commission at 7:30 p.m. on May 6, 1993
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III. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
DAVE GILIUSON - Invited the committee members and staff to oint
the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee in Carrolls Woods on May 1st to
help with the chipping of buckthorn.
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DEANNA SIMPSON - Deanna inquired that when it is necessary for
trees to be cut down would it be possible to invite the community
to haul away any woods that they would like vs paying to have the
woods hauled away. Dave reminded Deanna of the liability of having
citizens working on the park property with saws, etc. Yt might be
a possibility if the woods is cut small enough for the public to
simply haul and then work later at a different site of their own on
the cutting. The disposition will be looked into further.
SCOTT RYNERSON - Expressed a concern about the stakes that are on
either side of the portable toilets in Charlies Park due to the
traffic of kids in the area. Rick stated that these can be
removed. He also wanted to inform the committee and thank Linda
Ladzun for volunteering to serve on the Armary Committee.
JOHN HOWARD - Inquired as to the procedure needed in order to get
bike trails repaired. Dave informed him that he would need to
notify the Public Works- Department to take care of this since the
trail maintenance comes under public works.
LINDA LADZUN - Congratulated the staff on the sma11 business grant
they received for trees in Jaycee Park. Dave briefly explained the
grant as being a matching grant of $5, 000. 00 from the state to
finance the planting of trees bought from a small business and
planted by a small business. Asked that a Thank you card be sent
to the Jaycees for their donations to Carrolls Woods ($500) and
Erickson Community Square ($7,000) subcommittees, and also their
donations for Jaycee Park.
JERRY PUCIATY - They are down to four candidates for the Armory
Manager position. The position will be offered by Friday with an
alternate candidate being named as a backup.
IV. DIRECTOR'8 REPORT: Dave Bechtold and Mark Joosten went to the
zoo a couple weeks ago and received the award, a large plaque, for
the Tree City U.S.A.
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Park Improvement Day is planned for May 22, 1993 in conjunction
with the city clean up day. This wi11 be promoted in the near
future.
Dave asked to have the committee members clarify what subcommittee
members are attending at this point in time. Also, if there are
members that are listed, but not coming to the meetings. Please
let Dave know and the decision can be made if new members need to
be invited to join or can the committees function without any
further members. Linda Ladzun is on the Erickson Community Square
subcommittee. That eommittee is satisfied with the membership
list.
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A tree planting ceremony has been planned for May 4, 1993 at 7z30
p.m. Dave extended an invitation to the committee members to
attend this. In case of rain, May 18, 1993 has been planned as an
alternate date. The members did receive an invitation card from
Lacelle previously.
Rick informed Deanna that the woods has arrived for the picnic
tables/shelters. He asked Deanna for her input on what locations
would be best for these shelters.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting. BECOND
by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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ONE (612)4234411 2875-145th Street West,Rosemount,Minnesota MAYOR
FAX (612)423-5203 Mailing Address: Edward B. McMenomy
P.O.Box 510,Rosemount, Minnesota 55068-0510 COUNCILMEMBEflS
Sheila Ktassen
James(Red)Staats
Harry Willcox
Dennis Wippermann
ADMINISTRATOR
Stephan Jilk
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FROM: DAVID J. BECHTOLD, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
DATE: MARCH 10, 1993
RE: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF MARCH 15, 1993
DATE: MARCH 15, 1993'
PLACE: ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL C4UNCIL ;CHAMBERB, 2875 - 145TH ST WEST
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA
I. CALL MEETING TQ ORDER
II. ADDITI NS TO THE AGENDA
III. APPROVE MINUTES OF THE FEBRiTARY 22, `1993 MEETING
IV. AUDIENCE INPLTT
OLD BOSINE88
I. RAAA UPDATE
II. TRANSFER OF SHELTER FUNDS TO SUBCOMMITTEES
III. APPROVAL OF BYLAWS BY CITY COUNCIL
IV. TREE CITY USA
V. SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF MARCH 4, 1993
VI. SUMMARY CARROLLS WOODS / ERICKSON COMMUNITY SQUARE MEETINGS
NEW BIISINESS
I. PARKS PROGRAMMER
II. CARROLLS WOODS - PRAIRIE AREA
III. WORK SESSION MEETINGS
IV. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
V. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
VI. ADJOURNMENT
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PARRS AND RLCREATION COMMITTEE MELTING
REGIILAR MEETING OF MARCH 15, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Rynerson, Deanna Simpson, Linda Ladzun,
John Howard, Dave Giliuson, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Lisa Jost, Dave Bechtold, Rick Cook, Kerry Budinger
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:40 p.m. by
chairperson Scott Rynerson.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None.
APPRODAL OF T8E FEHRIIARY 22, 1993 MINUTEB: MOTION by Deanna
Simpson to accept the minutes of February 22, 1993 meeting as
printed. SECOND by Tom Reller. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MINUTES
APPROVED.
AODIENCE INPUT: Cathy Busho of the Planning Commission informed
the members that the Camprehensive Guide Plan for the City of
Rosemount has been completed and approved by the Council. It has
now been forwarded to the Metropolitan Council.
I. RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann was on hand to brief the committee
members on the RAP,A program. The inhouse basketball numbers are
down from last year, but the traveling basketball participation has
increased. The tryouts for travelig soccer and baseball will be
held next month. RAAA will inform the participants that they
should avoid playing on the local fields until they are ready to
go•
The RAAA appointed one of their members from Rosemount to serve on
the Armory Commission as requested.
The Apple Valley City Council was presented with a petition
requesting that the $3,000,000 be used for a new athletic facility
for the area with approximately 3,000 signatures on it. The issue
was tabled until a further date, but later in the evening the
council appropriated half of the money ($1,500,000) to be used to
buy down the bonds on the Central Maintenance Facility. The land
alone for the athletic facility will be at least $1,500, 000.00. So
the future of the athletic facility is very uncertain at this
point.
Apple Valley Park and Rec has set a user fee for the fields for
RAAA tournaments at $35. 00 per day. This will take quite a chunk
out of the expected profits from those tournaments. Tom asked if
perhaps Dave could eonfer with the area parks and rec directors,
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etc. and resolve this situation because it can really stress the
budget of local groups such as RAAA to have to rent fields for that
amount.
II. TRANSFER OF SHELTBR FUNDS TO SIIBCOMMITTEES: Dave informed the
eommittee members that he was to have requested a transfer of funds
from the shelter funds and distribute them evenly to the Carrolls
Woods and Erickson Community Square subcommittees. When Dave
presented this for review by the City Administrator, Steve Jilk,
Steve recommended that the subcommittee members put actual projects
together before the request is made of the council. If these lists
of specific items needed by each subcommittee is then presented to
the City Council along with the proposal to transfer the funds it
has a better chance of gaining approval by the council. The
committee members felt this was a good idea. They should meet to
discuss projects with the idea in mind that the funds are there to
be requested. This process would have to be done whether the fund
title was changed now or later as the requests are made.
III. APPROVAL OF BYLA PS BY CITY COONCIL: A handout (attached) was
given to the committee members of page three of the Parks and
Recreation Committee Bylaws. Steve Jilk, City Administrator,
suggested that some changes be made in the wording of two of the
items. These changes are listed clearly in the handout. These
changes were reviewed with the committee members. After a short
discussion a MOTION was made by Scott Rynerson to accept the bylaws
with the revisions as written. 8ECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. Dave will now take the bylaws to the
City Council for approval.
IV. TREE CITY USA: Dave informed the committee members that he
will be presenting the Tree City USA program to the City Council
and asking them to give public recognition to Lacelle Cordes and
Mark Joosten and other Parks and Recreation staff for a job well
done on the project.
We will be receiving advertisement in the paper, mailings, and
signs for the roadways entering the city designating us a "Tree
City USA". There are many grants that we will be able to qualify
for now that we have this certification, We must put in place
programs to analyze diseased and damaged trees, analyze the safety
of parks, reforestation, and analyze city ordinances regarding
trees. This is where the proposed Parks Programmer position will
be important to research and write ordinances. Deanna Simpson
stated that she felt it was important to recognize and thank Mark
Joosten and Lacelle Cordes and the other park staff for the work
their work on this project. Scott Rynerson stated that she spoke
for all the committee members in also giving recognition to the
staff.
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March 15, 1993
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V. SUMMARY OF WORR SBBSION OF MARCB 4, 1993: The committee
members found the meeting very informational.The Erickson
Community Square subcommittee felt they were able to make better
decisions with the information they received at the meeting. The
committee members stated that the willingness of the Engineering
Dept. to work with and inform the subcommittees was above and
beyond their expectations. They wanted to extend a thank you and
express their appreciation to Bud for being at the meeting
providing the information for the committees.
VI. SUMMARY SUBCOMMITTEE IYIEETING8: Erickson Community Square:
The next meeting is scheduled for March 16, 1993.
Carrolls Woods: The next meeting is scheduled for Saturday, March
20, 1993 . Each member is to being a volunteer to help drag brush
out of Carrolls Woods to the woodchipper. Parks staff will be
chipping the wood. The Parks and Recreation staff and committee
members were invited to join the volunteer group. There is some
concern regarding the Tordon leaching into the root systems of
surrounding plant life. There will be a small test plot of both
the Tordon and Crossbow herbicides before any decisions are made as
to which product to use.
I.`"PARRB PROGRAMMER: (Handoutj Dave will be requesting the
addition of a 3/4 time position of Parks Programmer to be added to
the Parks staff to handle the Adopt-A-Park program, research and
gather information regarding ADA standards in the parks system, and
work with the Parks Dept. , Planning Dept, etc. while writing and
updating ordinances, grant research, liaison between Parks and Rec
Committee and the subcommittees, etc. The pay rate will be $9.61
per hour, 30 hours per week, with an approximate starting date of
May 10, 1993 . Dave requested that the committee members express
their approval of the addition of this position to the program. A
MOTION was made by Jerry Puciaty to support the Park Directors
request to the City Council for the position of Parks Programmer.
SECOND by Scott Rynerson. Ayes: 7. Nays 0. MOTION CARRIED.
II. CARROLLS WOODS - PRAIRIB AREA: Scott Rynerson verbally mapped
out an area northwest of Carrolls Woods and told the committee
members that he would like to begin to start making plans to obtain
that area of land known as the Kelley property. A MOTION was made
by Scott Rynerson requesting Parks and Rec staff to initiate a
feasibility study regarding the purchase of the Kelley property
adjacent to Carrolls Woods as described in our Master Park Plan.
The study is to include inquiries to the property owner regarding
availability and grant opportunity. SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes:
7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. Scott felt that the position of the
Parks Programmer would be valuable in this process, and this might
be noted when presenting the position to the City Council. Dave is
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to contact the city Attorney to deal with this proposal. this
should be done in conjunction with other departmen efforts dealing
with the Kelley property.
III. NORR SE88ION MEETING: Dave felt that it would be important
to take the bull by the horns and invite Ron Wasmund, Bud
Osmundson, and other staff inembers of the Departments and meet with
the Utility Commission and Parks to look into ways we can share and
continue to work together. Topics such as Birger Pond could be a
priority. The committee members felt this was a good idea and
thought it could be planned for the May workshop meeting. Dave
will clear this with Ron Wasmund.
Several topics were discussed for the April workshop meeting as
follows: Leprechaun days: How can the committee members get
involved, pubilicity, etc. Another topic being Public Relations,
making the public aware of the committee and it's objectives. The
topic the committee decided on was to have representatives from
RAAA to the meeting to give an in depth report and take any
questions. Dave will check with Tom Neumann to see if this would
be possible. Leprechaun Days will be used as a back up topic. Sf
not used as a back up, the subject of Leprechaun Days could be
approached during the workshop meeting of June.
IV. CHAIRPERSON'8 RBPORT:
SCOTT RYNBRSON: Informed the committee members of a letter he
received from Mayor McMenomy asking the Parks and Recreation
Committee to provide them with a name of an individual to be
appointed to the Armory Commission. He stated that he knew it
would be quite a commitment, but if any members are interested they
are to work up a background sketch and submit this to Dave. He
asked that potential candidates make their final decisions by the
end of the week.
At this time Daue stated .that - Jerry , Puciaty has expressed an
interest to volunteer to serve on the interview committee for the
staffing of the armory. The committee members agreed that Jerry
should be appointed to do so.
DAVB GILIUSON: Reminded the committee members of the help needed
at Carrolls Woods on Saturday, March 20.
TOM RELLER: None.
DEANNA SIMPSON: Stated that the Garden Club is concerned again
this year about the water run off from the parking 1ot of Corcorans
and they are wondering what can be done to help this situation.
Dave stated he will talk with Corcorans and also Dakota Central
regarding snow removal from their parking areas. Also, the Home
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Page 5
and Garden Show has donated several trees, dozens of flower bulbs,
and decorative grasses to the Parks and Recreation Department
through Minnesota Green. They are being kept in a warming house
until they can be planted.
JOHN H+DIPAR e Had a question regarding the meet ng set up by the
League of Cities. Dave stated that the League of Cities has
scheduled a meeting with the committees and commissions of the City
of Rosemount for a training session on what your job is, how to run
meetings, how to be efficient, conflict of interest, etc. on March
22, 1993. He strongly encouraged the committee members to attend
these sessions.
LINDA LADZON: None.
JERRY PUCIATY: None.
Scott Rynerson mentianed that the Town Pages should be contacted
regarding the volunteers and chipping the buckthorn at Carrolls
Woods. Maybe we can provide them with a picture to print.
The progress of Jaycee shelter was questioned, Dave stated that
the final walk through needs to be scheduled and the facility will
be accepted and scheduled for use.
V. DIRECTOR'8 REPORT: Dave feels that it is important for the
committee and staff inembers move ahead with projects. It is going
to be important to work with other departments and commissions,
etc. to get the best results.
Dave then reviewed eneumbered funds, etc. of the budget report that
had been given to each member that evening.
ADJOIIRNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to ajourn the meeting. SECOND
by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. The meeting
was acljourned at 9:10 p.nt.
Respectfully submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
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HONE (612)4234411 2875-145th Street West,Rosemount,Minnesota MAYOR
FAX (612)4235203 Mailing Address: Edward B.McMenomy
P.O.Box 510,Rosemount,Minnesota 5506&0510 COUNCILMEMBERS
Sheila Klassen
James{Red)Staats
Harry Wilicox
Dennis Wippermann
ADMINISTRATOR
Stephan Jilk
T0= PARKS & RECREATION COM ITTEE MEMBERS
FROM= DAVID J . BECHl`OtD , RECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION
DATE: FEBRUARY 16 , 1993
RE: PARKS & RECREATIOM COMM'ITTEE MEETING, OF FEB . 22 , 1993
DATE= FEBRUARY 22, 1993 '
PLACE: ROSEMOUNT CITY HALL
TIME: 7=30 P.M.
AGENDA:
I . CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II . AODITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III . APPROVE MINUTES OF TNE JANUARY `18 , 1993 MEETING
IV . AUDIENCE INPl1T
V . ELEC7ION OF OFFICERS
OLD BUSINESS'
I . RAAA UPDATE
II . SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF .7ANUARY 25 , 1993
III . BYLAWS DI5CU55TON
IV . SUMMARY OF CARROLLS WOODS AND TOWN GREEN MEETINGS
V . ADOPT - A - PARK
NEW BUSINESS
I . ITEM FOR MARCH 4 , 1993 WORKSHOP
II . CHAIRPERSON 'S REPORT
III . DIRECTOR 'S REPORT
IV . ADJOURNMENT
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REMINDER: THE CARROLLS WOODS COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING AT
6:30 P.M. PRIOR TO OUR MEETING. THEY HAVE A GUEST FROM THE
DNR (LARRY WESTERBERG). HE WILL BE SPEAKING ON THE SUBJECTS +
OF WOODLOT MANAGEMENT, HOW fi0 SET A PRIORITY SYSTEM FOR
PROJECTS, AND BUCKTHORN .
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PARRS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRIIARY 22, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Rynerson, Deanna Simpson, Linda Ladzun,
John Howard, Dave Giliuson, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director; Lisa Jost, Assistant
Director; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor, Sue Walsh, Lacelle Cordes,
Mark Joosten
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7:40 p.m. by
chairperson Tom Reller.
Assistant Administrator, Sue Walsh, administered the oath office to
committee members Dave Giliuson and Linda Ladzun for a second term
on the Parks and Recreation Committee.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: Addition to Old Business section of VI.
Ringette Program.
APPROVAL OF THE JANIIARY 18, 1992 MINIITES: MOTION by John Howard to
accept the minutes of January 18, 1992 meeting as printed. SECOND
by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0.
AUDIENCE INPIIT: None.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS: Chairperson Tom Reller opened the floor fo
nominations for the election of officers to the Chairperson and
Vice-Chairperson positions.
MOTION was made by Deanna Simpson to nominate Scott Rynerson for
the position of Chairperson. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. Elected by vote of 7-0.
MOTION was made by Deanna Simpson to nominate Dave Giliuson for the
position of Vice-Chairperson. SECOND by Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7
Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED. Elected by vote of 7-0.
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I. RAAA UPDATE: Tom Neumann, The President of RAAA, gave a short
summary of the RAAA program. They have just gone through their
largest registrations of the year. Because of this the University
property is being looked at more seriously as an alternate site for
programs. Their organization plans to take an active role in
obtaining property, possibly the present navy site. This is
expected to be a project about 5-10 years in the future.
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When asked what had been decided on the $3, 000, 000 dollar fund
balance of Apple Valley Tom informed the committee members that
RAAA and AVAA went on a petition drive and will presented to the
Apple Valley City Council at their next meeting to use the money to
develop parks. Dave informed the committee members of some of the
issues regarding the university property.
Tom then asked the committee members if they have any questions
that they would like him to take back to the RAAA Board. Dave
Giliuson asked why the weekends are not utilized for programs. Tom
stated that usually the weekends are not used because of the
tendency for people to leave town on the weekends in the summer
months. Last year, however, due to a need for field time they did
have a Friday night programs on a rotating schedule basis. This
may be utilized more often.
II. SUMMARY OF WORR SESSION OF JANIIARY 25, 1993 MEETING: Dave
informed committee members that he sent out the job descriptions
that were researched from the ice arena school in Red Wing and some
of the other cities because they were requested at the meeting.
A short discussion took place regarding the decision that was made
regarding management of the armory with Deanna Simpson expressing
her approval of the armory manager directly reporting to the Cit
Administrator and City Council. She felt that it should not be
seen as a vote of no confidence for the Parks and Recreation Staff.
She feels that the Parks and Recreation Department are doing a good
job keeping the current programs and facilities running smoothly
and she was concerned that the additional responsibilities
regarding the ice arena may have been detrimental to this. Dave
thanked her from himself and the department for stating this and
felt that it was important for the staff to hear it.
III. BYLAWS DISCOSSION: Scott Rynerson suggested a couple minor
changes to the Bylaws as follows:
Article VIII, Section 1 to xead: Recommend appropriate Parks and
Recreation staffing.
Article VIII, Section 2 to read: Appoint subcommittees as needed.
MOTION by Scott Rynerson to approve the Bylaws with the minor
changes recommended. SECOND by Dave Giliuson. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0.
MOTION CARRIED.
IV. SUMMARY OF CARROLLS WOODS AND TOWN GREEN MEETINGS: Tom Reller
briefed the committee members on the Carrolls Woods Subcommittee
meeting held earlier in the evening. A decision had been made to
get a volunteer group together and cut a test plot in Carrolls
Woods on March 20th with the application of Tordon to the
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February 22 , 1993
Page 3
buckthorn. The plan is to cut the buckthorn as close to the ground
as possible and then apply the chemical. They are in the process
of obtaining samples of both Tordon and Cross Bow. The Cross Bow
will be applied to the buckthorn closer to the peak growing period
at the end of April.
Deanna asked if any attention has been given to the trail
maintenance problems. Dave Giliuson stated that buckthorn is the
priority item at this point because of the short length of time
action can be taken. After a plan to control the buckthorn is in
place then other items such as trails can be addressed. Extensive
discussion regarding trails took plac and Deanna requested that
the subject of trail maintenance and design be discussed at the
next Carrolls Woods meeting. John Howard supported her on this.
Tom Reller suggested that while the committee is in the woods on
the 20th of March that the subject could be addressed at that time.
Dave Giliuson felt that was a good suggestion and supported putting
it on the agenda for that day.
Scott Rynerson questioned Dave regarding disability standards in
relation to the trails at Carrolls Woods. Dave informed him that
the staff is currently attending seminars regarding this matter and
will be addressing it in relation to trails, etc.
Deanna Simpson briefed the group on the Town Green Meeting that met
on February 15th. Scott Gundhust from Evergreen Gardens and Joe
Walsh from the Utilities Commission were present because the
committee feels strongly about having Utilities involved since the
area is considered a holding pond and park.
There was extensive discussion regarding a change in the
ampitheater location, down size the plans, etc. They also
discussed ways in which to recognize donors to the amphitheater
project. A high water mark is still needed in regards to the
project to aid in design and location.
The committee needs to have a map of undergraund pipes, and of
wa er and sewer lines. The electrical and other utilities also need
to be addressed.
Scott Gundhust has expressed an interest in working with the
committee on adding to the landscaping plans of the master plan.
Mark Joosten and Scott were asked to come up with a list of low
maintenance trees and shrubs that can be used. She also listed
possible sources of affordable stock to use.
They discussed "Roses for Rosemount, " landscaping with hardy shrub
roses along the Park and Ride on Hwy. 3 . The next meeting is
scheduled for March 16, 1993 .
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February 22, 1993
Page 4
Dave stated that Ron Wasmund and Bud Osmundson are willing to meet
at the next Town Green Committee meeting to discuss utilities of
the area including water marks, etc. It was decided to invite them
to the next Parks and Recreation Committee meeting instead due to
the fact that a City Council meeting is also scheduled for the
night of March 16, 1993 . The results of the discussion with Ron
and Bud at the Parks and Recreation will then be taken to the Town
Green meeting the next evening.
Dave told the group that he will be asking the City Council on
March 16, 1993 to change the funds from Twin Puddles shelter fund
to complete projects hat need to be completed in Carrolls Woods
and Erickson Community Square. Extensive discussion followed
regarding why the money is still there, how and why it could be
obtained, etc.
Dave informed the committee that he has a copy of the budget for
each of them and will be getting it to them.
ADOPT-A-PARR: Dave updated the committee members on Lacelle's
research on Adopt-A-Park programs from area cities. Rosemount has
always had a program for donations to the parks programs, but now
with the Adopt-A-Park program contributors have a way, to be
identified.
He reviewed the handout that was sent to each committee member
explaining how you can participate in the program, safety issues,
Rosemount Parks staff responsibility, the responsibility of the
contributor, etc. The city attorney has reviewed the document and
approved it.
Dave and Lacelle will be attending community meetings to get the
word out on the project. They will also be advertising in the
local newspaper.John Howard suggested possibly personally
contacting each community group and informing them of the program.
Dave Giliuson made a MOTION to approve the Adopt-A-Park program
proposal and recommended that Dave Bechtold present it to the City
Council for their support for implementation. SECOND by John
Howard. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
VI. RINGETTE PROGRAM: Dave Giliuson had been contacted by the
President of the Ringette program, Jack Tonkin. His main objective
was to gain a verbal support and approval from the Parks and
Recreation Committee members regarding the International Ringette
Tournament coming to Rosemount.
After extensive discussion by committee members expressing their
concerns regarding this issue no action was taken.
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February 22, 1993
Page 5
TSI.SS
I. ITEM FOR MARCH 4, 1993 WORRSHOP: It was decided to invite Ron
Wasmund and Bud Osmundson to the workshop meeting instead of the
March 15, 1993 Parks and Recreation Meeting. They feel it would be
easier to concentrate on the singular issue at the workshop
meeting. A letter will be sent to the members of the Erickson
Community Square Committee members inviting them to the workshop
on March 4, 1993 .
II. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
DAVE GILIIISON: Dave Giliuson asked the department to send out a
notice that the next Carrolls Woods Committee meeting will changed
from March 13 , 1993 to March 20, 1993 . The meeting will be at 9 :00
a.m. on the west side of the high school next to the hockey rink.
Each member is asked to bring a friend or two.
SCOTT RYNERSON: Scott had some questions for Dave regarding a
newspaper article published in the March 19, 1993 issue of the
Rosemount Town Pages. The article was in regards to a townhome
complex wanting a small park for the children of their complex that
had been slated to be added to the townhome area on completion of
the next phase of the project. Due to the new firehouse referendum
for that land, the city is in the process of purchasing the land
and the residents are asking for a park to be included with the
firehouse referendum. Dave and the committee stated their strong
cancerns for following the Master Plan and yet to cantinue to
identify and support the "private park" issues as identif ied in the
Limerick Townhome project. The committee contiues to support the
proposal that the Planning Dept. must (should) insist on additional
private open space for multiple dwellings.
DEANNA SIMPSON: Deanna requested that Dave or the Department
contact the Dakota Central Building and ask that they deposit the
snow from their parking lot in another area as they are piling snow
onto the perennial flower bed that Merrill Stelling added to the
community garden last year. Dave will discuss this with Ron
Wasmund when he returns from vacation.
TOM RELLER: Asked for an update on the armory project. He was
told that it is going forward as planned. He also questioned
whether the Jaycee Park shelter will be open at all this year.
Dave told him that due to several construction projects that need
to be redone correctly, the shelter will not be open for this
skating season. However, most of the corrections have been done
and a final walk through could be scheduled soon.
iJOHN HOWARD: John made a comment that in the future he suggests
that the Parks Committee ask for the opinion of the City Council on
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February 22, 1993
Page 6
time consuming projects instead of going to the City Administrator
for his opinion. He feels that it would save a lot of valuable
time and energy in the end.
LINDA LADZIIN: Complimented the warming house attendants on the job
they are doing for the community. She asked Lisa to pass this on
to the warming house staff.
JERRY PIICIATY: None.
III. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Mark and Lacelle provided Dave with
information on a grant from the DNR on small business proposals.
It is a $5, 000. 00 matching grant for small businesses to plant
trees in the city. Dave has applied for this and is waiting for
word back.
Lacelle is looking into a land acquisition grant for a possible
grant to apply to Birger Pond. Grants will be hard to get
accepted, but the assistance of the future parks programmer will
help give more staff time for checking on grants and putting them
together.
Dave stated that he wanted to thank the staff, in the presence of
the committee members for c oing a great job on the winter work
during the extended season.
ADJOIIRNMENT: MOTION by John Howard to adjourn the meeting. SECOND
by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. The meeting was adjourned at
9: 35 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary
D . .__ ._.,_ .
T0: PARKS & RECR ATION COMMTTTEE MEMSEf S
FROM: DAVID J . BECHTOLD , DIREC70R OF PARKS & RECREAI"ION
DATE: JANUARY 14 , 1993
RE: PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF JAN . 18 , 1992
DATE: JANUARY 18, 1993
PLACE:ROSEMOUNT CITY HaLL
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
AGEAIDA:
I . CALL MEETING TO ORDER
II . ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
III . APPROVE MINUTES OF 7HE DECEMBER 21 , 1992 MEETING
IV . AUDIENCE INPUT
OLD BUSINE55:
I . RAAA UPDA7E
II . PARK EVA UATIONS / STAFF WORK
III . ARMORY DEVELOPMEN7 RND PROGRAMMING UPDATE
IV . SUMMARY OF WORK SESSION OF JANUARY 7 , 1993
V . BYLAWS DISCUSSION ( JOIN WITH ITEM IV )
UI . SUMMARY QF CARROLLS WOODS AND TOWN GREEN MEE7INGS
NEW BUSINESS
I . I7EM FOR FEBRUARY 4 , 1993 WORKSHOP ( ADOPT-A-PARK )
II . COUNTY PARK PROJECT ( SPRING LAKE PARK
ITI . CHANGE FEB . MEE7ING DRTE TO 22ND
IV . C M C DEVELOPhtENT
U . CHAIRPER50N 'S REPORT
VI . DIRECTOR 'S REPORT
UII ADJOURNMENT
NOTICE:
6:30 - 7:30 p.m. Erickson Community Square Subcommittee Meeting will be
conducted in council chambers.
6:30 - 7:30 p.m. Carrolls Woods Subcommittee Meeting will be conducted in the
council chambers lounge. (Enter through the Council Chambers).
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PARRS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
REGIILAR MEETING OF JANUARY 18 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Rynerson, Deanna Simpson, Linda T adzun,
John Howard, Dave Giliuson, Jerry Puciaty, Tom Reller
STAFF PRESENT: Dave Bechtold, Director; Lisa Jost, Assistant
Director; Rick Cook, Parks Supervisor
ERS ABSENT: None
CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by 7 :40 p.m. by
chairperson Tom Reller.
ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF THE DECF M ER 21, 1992 MINIITES: MOTION by Jerry Puciaty
to accept the minutes of December 21, 1992 meeting as printed.
SECOND by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 6 Nays: 0.
AIIDIENCE INPIIT: None.
5:
I. RAAA IIPDATE: Terry Langager, Vice President of the RAAA Board,
represented RAAA this evening to give an update to the committee
members. The RAAA Board of Directors is hosting a workshop on
sexual abuse. They feel that as an association it is important to
address this issue and present it to the coaches. He extended an
invitation to any members of the committee that would like attend
the presentation at Scott Highlands on February 8 .
RAAA has been working with the Director and Assistant Director
regarding summer programs. There will be a one site sign up for
track, softball, and baseball. This is experimental this year.
They are working with Dave to schedule ballfields. Sign up for the
soccer program will be later in the year.
The in-house and traveling soccer program donated $750 each for a
total of $1500 toward the soccer program for the park department.
This will be put in the donation account. Thank you notes were
sent to each of those directors.
II. CMC DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY: Reed Hanson, legal council for the
CMC, represented the company this evening. He introduced Wayne
Delfino, Joe Hollett, and Peter Pfister, three of the principals
and planners for the CMC project.They presented a brief
background of the 103 and 226 acre developments they propose. He
also stated that because of the parks close proximity to downtown
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January 18, 1993
Page 2
CMC will be asking the Parks Committee and City Council to allow
its parks dedication fees to be used to enhance the park in the 103
acre development. Also, because the cost of development of the
park may exceed the park dedication fees from the 103 acre site,
CMC is requesting that they be able to use some of the park fees
that would come from the 226 acre site for this.
Joe Hollett, Director of Construction for CMC Heartland Partners,
presented a brief background on the development sites. Both
slevelopment sites will be single family residential dwellings.
here will be two sites, one of 103 acres with approximately 255
units, and another under option of 226 acres with approximately 665
units a bit further to the east of the same type of homes. He then
introduced Peter Pfister.
Peter Pfister, Architectural Planner, stated that one of the first
things they looked at with the park in the 103 acre development was
its proximity in relation to other parks in the area. The park
will be located approximately central to the development. It will
be a park that primarily serves the neighborhood, but will be set
up to connect and help support the rest of the park system as well.
He then gave a broad overview of the design of the development in
relation to the park and its access roads. He introduced several
th a minimumoptionsincludedintheparksuchasatotlotareawi
of play equipment, a possible small wading pool, an open space to
the east for frisbee, etc. or potentially a skating rink in the
winter time. On the north side there would be an area for older
children or adults such as volleyball type activities. Also part
of the proposal is to have the addition of a small building for two
primary reasons. One being to reinforce this as a central focal
point of the development, and secondly to extend the utility and
use of this park in both the summer and winter. It would be
primarily one space with restroom facilities, and potentially a
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small kitchen area. There would only be a small parking area due
to the fact that the users of the park would be local residents of
the development.
Through questioning by the committee members it was determined by
Mr. Pfister that the park would be a 2 acre mini-park. Deanna then
reviewed what the Park Master Plan reads regarding a minipark. A
concern was expressed regarding the appropriateness of a shelter in
the minipark setting. Wayne Delfino added that it would be a low
maintenance building with concrete floors, garage type doors that
would be open in the summer. In the winter the doors could be
closed and the fireplace used. Picnic tables would be scattered
about inside with no refrigeration or heating.
It was reiterated by Mr. Pfister that the main purpose of the
presentation tonight was to begin a dialogue regarding using the
dedication from both developments to start the minipark in the 103
acre development. Dave Bechtold commented on the standard use of
park dedication funds.He stated that they have to give
consideration to the Park System as a whole when allocating park
dedication funds. The funds have to benefit all the park systems
that the residents of the development will also be using for
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January 18, 1993
Page 3
programs such as little league baseball, soccer, etc. He also
asked the committee members to keep in mind that the number of
amenities offered may increase the size and the initial intended
use of the park.
III. COIINTY PARR PROJECT (SPRING LARE PARR) : Barb Schmidt,
Director of the Dakota County Parks Department presented a briefdescriptionofseveralofthemajorparksinDakotaCountyandthe
difference between a park reserve and a regional park.
then provided the committee members with a couple maps of tl e
Spring Lake Park area, the original master plan map, and an updated
version of a map of the same area. They have received several
partial grants for the campground at Schaar's Bluff, but still have
yet to receive the total amount needed. For this reason they have
down-scaled the original intent and size of the park. She also
listed several reasons the original location for the campground at
Schaar's Bluff has been causing concerns. Because of these
concerns they are interested in amending the master plan to
relocate the campground from the Schaar's Bluff area to an area
within the boundaries of Rase nount -cit limits. This is a more
desirable location due to easy access to the water, etc. The
campground is proposed to include a horse trail, and relocating the
archery range already in the area due to safety concerns at its
present location.
She informed the committee members that what she is looking for
this evening is a concurrence with the master plan amendment from
the Park Board. Dave reminded the committee members that even
though the Parks and Recreation Committee supports the idea of the
amendment, there are other development issues that the other
departments of the city will need to address. After several
positive comments from committee members regarding the relocation
Jerry Puciaty made a MOTION to support the amendments to the MasterPlanforcampgroundrelocationandrelocationofthearcheryrange.
There was a SECOND by Deanna Simpson. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION
CARRIED.
IV. ARMORY DEVELOPMENT AND PROGRAMMING IIPDATE: Steve Jilk was
present to review the management options for the Armory and the
recommended action. After a brief introduction to the presentation
he asked that the committee members feel free tol ed a handout to
ask questions as he presents the options. He supp
each committee member listing the options and the pros and cons of
each option.
The first option takes the existing Parks staff structure and
maintains it. It would require adding some additional staff to the
existing staff, but administratively leaves the Parks and Rec
Director in place, and splits the operation of all the Departments
functions including the community center facility into two separate
functions, maintenance and "programming" . The coordination and
administration of the facility would be within the administrative
staff right now, but adds coordinating staff.
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January 18, 1993
Page 4
Second option would be Parks and Rec committee is the advisory
committee to the Parks and Rec Director and to the City Council.
Third, the facility is run as a stand alone enterprise fund under
the direction of the Parks and Recreation Committee and the
Director, as are the sewer, water, and storm sewer funds with the
Public Works Dept. and Utility Committee.
He reviewed the pros and cons of each option with the committee
embers.
Some of the members voiced a concern about making any permanent
decisions or recommendations before being able to read and digest
the information supplied for them. Scott Rynerson recommended to
members of the committee to thoroughly review the information in
the handout and possibly meet in a week to discuss this in order to
be able to make an informed recommendation to the City Council.
Jerry Puciaty suggested discussing this at the next workshop
meeting.The committee members felt there was a need for
immediacy, and Deanna Simpson recommended that the workshop meeting
of February 4, 1993 be changed to an earlier date of January 25,
1993 in order to discuss the information in the handout.
A discussion regarding crossover of staff and programs followed and
some of the committee members e cpressed concerns regarding
budgeting such things. They wondered whether any type of computer
software has been sought out that will help with budgeting.
V. PARR EVALIIATIONS / STAFF WORK: Rick Cook informed the
committee members that now that we are in the middle of ice skating
season the Parks Department is maintaining three hockey rinks and
eight pleasure rinks. They are cleaned and flooded every day.
John Howard told Rick that he has been told the ice has been the
best it has ever been.
VI. SIIMMARY OF AORRSHOP OF JANUARY 7 1993:
VII. BYLAWS DISCIISSION: MOTION by Linda Ladzun to table this
discussion until the next meeting. SECOND by John Howard.
Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTIaN CARRIED.
This will be put on the agenda for the February meeting for
discussion.
VIII. SIIMMARY OF CARROLLS WOODS AND TOWN GREEN MEETINGS: Ron
Pederson summarized the Carrolls Woods Committee meeting. The
committee is going to go to the woods and take a look at the
buckthorn problem in March. They will be looking at ways to
utilize volunteers in controlling this. The committee has decided
to utilize the greater portion of their time and effort in looking
for money to fund future projects.
Deanna Simpson took this opportunity to address the topic of
possibly recommending to the City Council to unencumber $30,000 _
that was set aside in the 1980's for a shelter in Twin Puddles.
She would like to see $15, 000 to Town Green and $15, 000 to Carrolls
Woods Committee for the projects of their choice.
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January 18, 1993
Page 5
MOTION by Deanna Simpson to propose to the City Council to
unencumber the funds that were set aside for Twin Puddles of
30,000, and that those funds should be divided with $15,000 going
to Town Green, and $15,000 going to Carrolls Woods Committees.
SECOND Jerry Puciaty. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
John Howard presented a summary of the Town Green Committee
Meeting. The committee is disappointed in the fact that the Town
Green plan has had to be scaled back from the original intent.
me ideas for development of the park were discussed such as get
the grading done, also some beautification done in the Park and
Ride area. They also came up with some suggestions for fund
raising for that project.
Another project would be maintaining the "Welcome to Rosemount"
signs. The first priority would be to grade and slit seed, and
then planting of bushes.
Deanna feels that more input is needed from other departments in
order to determine if any of the committees ideas are feasible.
The next meeting will be February 15, 1993 . Dave related the fact
that Ron Wasmund, The Public Works Director, is eager to meet with
us on ponding issues, etc.
Scott Rynerson wondered if it may be better to have specific
projects for use of the $30, 000 when the proposal is presented to
the City Council. Dave felt that it would have more impact, but
didn't feel that it was necessary to have specifics in mind since
the projects are not known at this time.
The committee asked Dave to let them know when he will be making
the proposal to the City Council so they can be present to show
their support.
1''t::>:<:I`S
I. ITEM FOR FEBRUARY 4, 1993 WORRSHOP MEETING: MOTION by Tom
Reller to cancel the February 4, 1993 workshop because of the
workshop meeting scheduled January 25, 1993 . SECOND by Scott
Rynerson. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
II. CHANGE FEBRIIARY MEETING DATE TO THE 22ND: MOTION by John
Howard by change the regular Parks and Recreation Committee meeting
for February from February 15, 1993 to February 22, 1993 . SECOND
by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. MOTION CARRIED.
III. CIiAIRPERSON S REPORT
Dave Giliuson - None.
Scott Rynerson - Made calls to gather on the non-profit foundation
for Parks.Minneapolis and St. Paul will be sending him
information, and he will make this available to Dave when he
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January 18, 1993
Page 6
receives them. Dave asked Scott to obtain information from Edina
on their project also. Scott agreed that he would do this.
Deanna Simpson - None.
John Howard - Commended the staff for their fine work.
Linda Ladzua - None.
e ry Puciaty - Questioned whether the city has began taking
p lications for or reviewing applications for the new Park Board
members. Interviews are set for this Saturday January 23 , 1993 .
Tom Reller - Inquired on the status of Jaycee Park Construction.
Dave stated that it will be completed in approximately 1 1/2 week
in early February.
ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Tom Reller to adjourn the meeting. SECOND
by Linda Ladzun. Ayes: 7 Nays: 0. The meeting was adjourned at
9:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kerry Budinger, Recording Secretary